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Lol Schiff with the subtle but 100% deliberate shout out to the Wire âis you taking notes â scene.
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Nobody else pretty upset they wonât trade? Like sure Biden is really irreverent to the case and itâll just be a distraction but Biden is mostly clean, like he canât get in trouble. And if it would get us the witnesses itâs worth it.
The offer was probably in bad faith anyways but saying you wonât trade gives the Republicans a great talking point.
Iâm mostly pissed theyâre protecting Biden.
And they will continue to do so⌠
It was ten million percent a bad faith offer, if Dems agreed to it Republicans would call their witnesses, do their show trial bullshit with it then find a way to renege on their end.
Best case scenario is Dems get their witnesses but only between 10:00 PM and 10:15 PM or something ridiculous.
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All they can âtradeâ is subpoenas. The administration guys wonât show up while claiming executive privilege and all you have achieved is giving Republican Senators the opportunity to rage and provoke a man who is probably not up to answering - and his son.
I see that as an absolute win
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why would Republicans even need a trade with the Democrats? Donât they have the votes to just subpoena the Bidens and not call any Dem witnesses?
I think the answer depends on how willing you are to let Biden get got. There is literally no scenario I can think of where Joe comes out of his testimony looking better, some chance where he ends up a little damaged, and some chance that he completely implodes. And, if he implodes, thereâs some risk of blowback on the whole party b/c they were the ones who put him up there by making the deal.
OTOH,
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Rs are going to whine about process no matter what (what about the whistleblower? What about Shifty Schiff?), so maybe itâs better to hold the line by saying that you wonât horse trade nonrelevant witnesses for relevant ones.
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We donât know what Bolton will say. Maybe there have been private, backchannel conversations, but do we even know how much Bolton knows and what he is willing to talk about? Before an explicit trade, Iâd want a better sense of Boltonâs potential value.
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Iâd be terrified of a bad cop even worse cop play where Senate Râs agree to a witness trade, subpoenas go out, and then the White House invokes some sort of privilege to block Bolton, and goes to court to stop the testimony. Senate Rs claim they held up their part of the bargain by issuing the subpoena, Bolton says he really wants to testify, but is going to wait for the courts, and November 2020 moves closerâŚ
Bottom line, I donât like the risk/reward of a trade.
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Honestly Iâm fine with Biden getting got even if the dems donât get shit out of it lol. As long as it doesnât hurt the case against Trump, which it wonât, Iâm happy for Biden to crushed.
Dude fucking sucks and if he is the primary Nominee weâre super completely fucked.
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This. To me itâs entirely upside lol. Old man shouldnât have run.
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In my fantasy, the surprising but inevitable fallout of Warren v Bern manifested as a behind-the-scenes chess move to impeach Trump while removing Biden all at the same time. Little do they know both have secretly enacted plans of their own to ensure their rival goes down with Bidenâa standoff that takes down all four at once, thus paving the way for Yang to dominate.
(obviously none of that is true)
So they do the trade. Biden refuses to testify. Senate Republicans throw him in jail. Biden wins election from his jail cell.
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No fuck them. They just want to make it a spectacle. Biden isnât on trial. The defense that he was trying to investigate biden is already be proven false
Let them not call material witnesses. Thatâs on them.
Oh we are obstructing but we will obstruct less of you let us call joe biden and hunter biden and Hillary
Go fucking fuck yourself GOP.
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This is the correct strategy.
CSPAN Listener says ~, âif you were found in the ceiling of a bank, what would you be arrested for? if Trump would have left the decision to the American voter I would have voted for him.â
People are PISSED.
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wait, this is on fox news? by a guy who works for them? what?
yes it doesnât matter but what?
âWhat is required for removal of the president? A demonstration of presidential commission of high crimes and misdemeanors, of which in Trumpâs case the evidence is ample and uncontradicted.â
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