In Which We Brainstorm About Ruthless Political Moves Democrats Will Never Make

I meant to say going to see the party chair speak, not Doug Jones.

Pass a law that no state can get more federal dollars then they pay in.

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This unfortunately is a good idea.

No it isnā€™t. It only seems that way until the next big California earthquake or a terrorist attack hits DC or New York. Or, you simply realize that cutting off food aid to kids living in desperate poverty just because they happened to be born in Mississippi is both a really shitty thing to do and completely antithetical to the liberal values that weā€™re supposedly fighting this scorched earth battle to win.

ETA: also, depending on how corporate taxes are allocated, arenā€™t Delaware and Nevada just going to be making it rain?

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Principles are absolutely useless if you donā€™t have power.

Democrats still act like power is awarded randomly and you just happen to get to be in charge or not. Infuriating isnā€™t a strong enough word.

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Think about the political result of calling their bluff. Removing it gives you a beautiful bargaining chip.

Democrats are super one dimensional thinkers. The gop is busy blocking federal spending for PR and the nyc subway system.

Dems could market it as fighting the debt and fiscal responsibility. And since republicans have drilled it into their bases heads the blue states are the welfare socialist tax suckers a lot of them at least at first might jump right on it.

Its obviously mean and it would hurt a lot of innocent people. But it would never pass anyway so just use it as a club against Republicans and counter talking point forcing them to fight against it.

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And, how exactly does this help gain power? Dems are already are at a systematic disadvantage because the electoral college and the Senate structure advantages rural land over urban people, so the solution is to even more clearly define Dā€™s as the party of the coastal elite? We hold on to or win back working class voters by starving children? We convince people to support the party of ā€œbig governmentā€ by adding yet another level of complexity to a budgetary process that is already completely broken?

I have no problem using power aggressively, but itā€™s important to remember the larger meta that Republicans benefit when people believe that government is broken and is standing in the way of success and Democrats benefit when people believe that the government is competent, functional, and can contribute to success.

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If Democrats are as willing to vote for a platform of starving kids in Mississippi or refusing to rebuild flooded homes in Iowa, then congrats on your electoral victory I guessā€¦ But, if thatā€™s the state of the world, Iā€™m not sure why weā€™re even bothering.

And there is the problem. A ton of republican voters think big blue sates are failure welfare states because of big government and red states are successful because they have small ones. Its been pounded into their brains to the point there is no second thought. So how do you break the spell.

This is the ruthless thread. I dont want dems to accomplish this or really even tryā€¦But if dems did push the talking point or even put a bill on mitchs desk to languish it would be to force reps to give up that game and defend welfare for their states and acknowledge blue states successes. ā€™

Ive used this argument more then once on people complaining about socialism or wasteful blue states. And it either leads to fake news the stats are false or forces them to see blue states are run better then red states. And dems policies are better then reps. At minimum it gives them something to think about.

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thanks for the headsup on this, finished it tonight.

The way I understand it, Joe Reed who was a civil rights activist, at some point in the past was able to get bylaws created for the party that gave him and his african american allies control over the party. This was in response to having to fight Dixiecrats like George Wallace.

The problem is that the party in Alabama is still stuck way in the past. No money coming in, no help goign to local candidates, no social media presence, basically non existent. From hearing what Joe Reed said in the conversations from the podcast, heā€™s terrified of anyone white taking control of the party as he thinks itā€™ll be more dixiecrats. He says that white people just want to control the african americans in the party and he canā€™t let that happen. Acts like civil rights leaders would be turning over in their graves if he allowed them to.One of his trusted allies straight up said he wouldnā€™t vote for the same bylaws they already had if just because Doug Jones was proposing them.

So basically a group of mostly white democrats held a separate meeting and voted in new leadership, Joe Reed and his people voted to keep the same leadership in a different meeting. Eventually somehow the party elects Chris England a black man from the Doug Jones side and the GOP secretary of state says that he is the legitimate party chair.

Even after that, the Joe Reed side and his party chair Nancy Worley, basically refuse to acknowledge they donā€™t run the party anymore.

Apparently even after Chris england and his people move into the Party office in the state capitol, Nancy Worley continues to come in to work and just shares the building/office with them? According to the pod one day she gets frustrated and says ā€œeveryone out or Iā€™m getting my gun.ā€ She told people later she was jokingā€¦ They changed the locks after that and I guess sheā€™s out. They have vowed to possibly take it to court though.

Lastly a couple notes on Nancy worley and the office itself. According to the Pod, the office was barely staffed and just piled with papers and shit everywhere. The reporter had tried to get in touch with her but never could and her voicemail was always full. Towards the end of this reporting he gets a meeting with her. She gets a call during the meeting and lets it go to voicemail. Makes a comment about how she likes to keep her voicemail full because people usually just want her to do one more thing and with it full then there is no one more thingā€¦

seems like it shoudl be getting on track now though, Iā€™m going to see the new party chair speak on the 16th here near where I live so Iā€™ll see what heā€™s got to say.

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Nancy Worley was definitely the villain of this saga imo. Her openly admitting that she just avoids doing anything was so gross. Agreeing to an interview just so she couldnā€™t be bothered by other people for an hour. Unopened certified mail on her desk from 2013. Etc.

Definitely let us know your thoughts when you hear Chris England talk. Hopefully this is a positive turning for for Alabama dems.

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Democrats are not sufficiently ruthless to politicize any deaths of American military personnel that might arise from hostilities with Iran and will default towards talk about national unity during times of war.

There should be pre-planned narratives ready to roll out and use to attack Trump in case of failure.

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https://twitter.com/FiveThirtyEight/status/1213745910930444288?s=19

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Hillary/Obama should have refused the election results.

63 million voters should have refused the election results. The lack of desire among the US electorate to be a democracy where the majority decides the winner is disturbing.

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Democrats, Newly Dominant in Virginia, Race to Make New Laws

Virginia Democrats, who hold full control of state government for the first time in a generation, want to ban assault-style rifles. They want to get rid of statues honoring Confederate leaders in dozens of Virginia cities. They intend to give undocumented people licenses to drive.

And they want to do it all in the next 60 days.

Itā€™s cool stuff and all but itā€™s also so boring that these should be centrist positions.

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Thatā€™s not even ruthlessness, itā€™s just common sense:
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~5 million people get 6 Representatives and 10 Senators?? Fuck that, throw Nebraska into that new giant state while weā€™re at it, they can have 10 Reps and 2 Senators.

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Gotta be careful how you divide CA, or you may wind up just making an extra red state or two to go along with one uberblue one. Might look pretty suspiciously gerrymandered to do it the right way.

Ok ive mentioned this before and i want people to tell me where im going wrong if i am or what im missing.

Dems should steal voter ID from reps. Push a National ID that is free and is automatically given to people when they become eligible to vote. Nancy could put a bill on Mitchā€™s desk and do it in the name of voter security and fraud and such.

It would increases voter participation, stop rep purging of voter rolls and from my experience shuts down reps when they talk voter ID.

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