I resign

[NotBruceZ]

Can’t be worse than your triple draw advice.

[anon29622970]

You trolled this place by reversing bans that I was voted in as a mod to make and made a mess of this all. You defend people who are here actively trying to wreck this forum over someone trying to do the difficult things to make it better.If you were so certain that they were against the community’s interest why didn’t you take me up on my offer to have them reversed via a vote and I would resign after they were reversed?

[CaffeineNeeded]

Please leave me the hell out of y’all’s stupid drama. Thank you in advance.

[Yuv]

You are trying to wreck this forum. I was voted as a mod as well. Your posts are pure gibberish.

[anon29622970]

@clovis8

Rotfl @CaffeineNeeded voted no. Dude he wanted to ban you too. Only reason he didn’t is he thought it would cause more chaos targeting one side only.

This is bullshit. I chose not to ban CN and jbro from my original list. Both because when reviewing their history, I felt like they were making honest efforts to contribute here as members of the forum, and that their last week of posting especially showed they had been on their best behaviors.

[anon29622970]

You were voted in as a mod with zero discussion other than me nominating you, versus my nomination which had extensive discussion about what I would do if people voted for me. And telling people not to vote for me if they didn’t want me to ban people. Totally the same thing.

[clovis8]

It’s not a good analogy because nobody did the simple step of opening a poll and asking if they should be banned. Well actually they did for Churchill and I believe the answer was no.

As I have already stated. My issue isn’t jal being gone. It’s the anti-democratic nature of mebs actions. He keeps trying to pretend he had some huge community mandate yet he never once publicly stated who he was banning. In fact, he actively lied about it to us other mods making it seem like an equal attack on “both sides” (whatever that means) only to end up totally dropping one side and banning just the people he arbitrarily chose to with no community or mod discussion.

[Hired_Goons]

This poll is fouled. The “edit” statement incorrectly portrays the facts. It is unfair to the intended victim.

[anon29622970]

@clovis8

In fact, he actively lied about it to us other mods

Fuck you, no I didnt

[anon29622970]

Going to post all of my PMs that I sent to the mod group so everyone can see my lies.

[Yuv]

I suspected your intentions were to destroy the forum. I clearly stated to you what i will do in that event. You proved me right immediately. You won, you got some chaos and entertainment from a place you dont care about (as prove by you immediately wanting your account nuked after demod) cause you have a new place to talk.

[anon29622970]

@anon29622970

Hey all,

There’s about to be a lot of us, so figured it might be a good idea for us to have a PM thread to chat in for now.

First, I wanted to address something that some of you might be wondering about. Yes, I am planning on banning a small number of posters on July 1st. I appreciate the fact that some of you might disagree with this approach.

I was clear all along in the lead up to being approved as a mod that I would be doing this if elected without any rules in place to prevent it. Because of this, my approval took the most attention, and ultimately I believe the vote shows that the community is on board with this decision. If they are unhappy after the fact, I welcome them putting together a vote to reverse my decision or to remove me as a mod.

I think we’re all aware this forum has had deep divisions for some time now, and that there are a number of people who are here solely to attack specific posters and this community as a whole. The small number of people I plan to remove are ones who make up the bulk of all moderation issues on this site, and whose presence will never allow us to move past this divide. I based me becoming a mod on this because I would never agree to serve in this position if these posters are allowed to stay. Because of this, I am fine being the one to flip the switch on something I think most of the forum has known we needed for quite awhile.

If you disagree with me, I have no issue with anyone posting publicly that they disagree. My only request is that no one reverse any of these bans unless the community votes to reverse a ban, remove me as a mod, or create concrete limitations on the lengths of bans a moderator may issue. I promise that I will also never reverse any ban or other decision any of you make, and will speak to you privately if I strongly disagree with you.

Appreciate all of you, and looking forward to working with everyone to help this forum be great!

First message

[Crunchyblack]

Demod everyone, don’t make new mods

[clovis8]

He had jbro and cn.

Why are you completely missing the point it doesn’t matter who was on his list. Nobody made him a dictator to create secret lists he would edit at will.

All of this was easily solved. He had many many chances to put this to a vote and he refused.

There is only one possible explanation.

[anon29622970]

@anon29622970

Hey, wanted to message you separately. I had a feeling you would likely be in strong disagreement with me. I know I probably won’t win you over, but just wanted to send you a message to tell you that I am honestly trying to do something good for the forum here. I do believe that the forum has empowered me to do this too.

I valued this community a lot when we first started, and I believe we can be a community that is fun to be a part of again. But as is, we are currently dying because there are a select few people trying to make this place die and specifically punish certain posters. The number of people who are about to leave this place if this continues is far larger than you likely realize. So this is a last ditch effort to save this place by eliminating the main problems before it dies.

I will tell you, I PMed a mod who I think we would both have a very positive view of asking them who from their experience are doing the most damage on this forum and the biggest PITA to deal with. Didn’t say anything else and ended the conversation with their response. Their list matched mine 100% without me even telling them why I was asking.

Sent this message to Clovis and he never responded

[Crunchyblack]

Imagine being a 40 year old man issuing bans on a small internet forum :VINCE:

[anon29622970]

Clarifying some things here

@anon29622970

I wanted to wait until July 1st because I didn’t want to add it to the end of the outgoing mods terms.

Once we have mod powers added, I’m happy to discuss the exact posters with everyone in here. That way if it were to be leaked to them, I have the ability to quickly end whatever temper tantrum might follow. But I’m sure most of you would be able to guess with pretty great accuracy.

[NotBruceZ]

I think MEb actually does care and thinks he is doing the right thing. I suspect his plan is to come back under a different name and pretend he is a new user with a clean slate. He might take some time off, but he would want to be back in time for the 2024 elections.

[anon29622970]

Message in response to Clovis

@anon29622970

I have to be honest, my concern for not releasing the names is you. I believe you are incredibly likely to go and publicly post them if I share them right now and then we have posters throwing a tantrum in the forum and putting the onus on the current mod team to handle it.

[L.Washington]

:vince3: