Like, I’ve called it a ghetto blaster randomly in the last several years but come on.
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No. America is not the whole world. Areas called ghettos don’t even exist in the UK ffs. Come on.
are you trying to say that ghetto doesn’t imply things like crime, gang violence, poverty in the UK?
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OH, Where did this term come from then?
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Well I’m guessing the UK didn’t independently and coincidentally coin it at the same time as we did.
You’re literally using “black people say it too” as your main argument in the same post as bringing up the n-word to contrast it with.
Ghetto isn’t a word we’ve ever used on its own.
just lol
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So in your question you admit both are racist but want to know which one is more racist?
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Here’s where you just get it crucially wrong. There are no places where it has no racist connotations.There are only places where people are ignorant of the racist connotations of things. Their ignorance doesn’t magically remove a word from it’s cultural context to other listeners.
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I am laughing at the idea of some future historian reading this and trying to translate the curry stairs discussion into some kind of race related issue.
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Oh I can do polls, too. How many people are going to have to tell jalfrezi he’s wrong about this being racist before he admits it?
- 5
- 25
- He’s dying on this hill
0 voters
So your argument is that “ghetto blaster” has a different, non-racist connotation in the UK than in the US, which is to suggest that “ghetto” means something different in the UK. You now admit that there are not even ghettos in the UK.
Nice own goal there, bud. A real howler!
He is obviously not racist. The term is racist though.
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bullshit
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I’ve seen how you absorb good arguments.
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That’s why I was surprised he’d use it, but he did, and it is racist.
Yep. And quite frankly, for continuing to die on this hill even as tons of people tell him it’s racist, I have to re-adjust my views on his degree of racism and how it fits in with his posting history and his motivations behind some of his past posts.
It’s weird I can google and find references to UK ghettos, also Islamic “no go” zones referenced as Islamic ghettos.
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Pretty sure catholic ghettos in North Ireland are a thing. Is there really an instance since WWII that ghetto hasn’t been used to describe where some “other” group lives?
The famous yuppie ghettos of Amsterdam.
Except I’m not doing that,I’m saying a phrase he used has a somewhat racist connotation.
And I fundamentally disagree that racist stuff isn’t racist if the person saying it doesn’t know it is, that’s my whole point here. Zwarte Piet is racist af even if the Dutch don’t think they mean any particular insult by it. I’m not saying they’re all racist, I’m saying this thing is super insulting to a ton of people and perpetuates a derogatory stereotype. You can do that out if ignorance, not just malice.
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