As far as I can tell, the General Social Survey says that a minority of married people have sex with a third person.
Funny how a group of 100+ people might have a few differing opinions.
Do you lie to your partner about anything?
My bottom line point is holding the act of touching someone elseās genitalia once above all other types of lies and betrayals is just weird religious cultural baggage that is deeply embedded in our culture.
You have deeply disturbing thoughts about religion.
About things they care about? Absolutely not what the heck
French politician being blackmailed, threatening to expose that he wasnāt having an affair
I think lying about other stuff is bad too? I wouldnāt trust George Santos or other know fabuilists with public office.
By being in a monogamous relationship, both parties are putting a large amount of trust in their partners behavior. Itās not up to you to tell them thatās not important to them. And regardless of what the behavior is, breaking it is disqualifying for public office if they canāt do simple impulse control privately.
If anything, itās baggage from the fact that for most of human history playing with others genitials directly lead to bastard children which required an enormous devotion of resources that massively affected the noncheating spouse. Plus STDs. And then religion evolved to rightly say that it is fucked up to do that to your spouse.
You are 100% lying about never lying to a partner.
Agree. So is cheating. Iām not saying cheating is ok. Iām saying itās very common and the idea that it should preclude someone running for office is insane.
Everyone lies.
Everyone breaks the law to some degree
The vast majority of people cheat
Using these as absolutes for politicians is very weird.
Iām just saying we allow some level of the first two but not the last one. Why?
I just vote for the tallest, whitest man.
I didnāt make a commitment to anyone not to speed. Cheating on someone isnāt generally breaking any laws, it is usually lying to someone you are in a position of supreme trust with. If your word to your partner isnāt good why should I put you in a position to lie to me?
Bad analogy.
Cheating on someone is a massive betrayal. Speeding would be akin to telling a white lie. āWould you support someone who hits people with a crowbar to the faceā would be a more apt comparison.
Why is being faithful to a partner a religious issue? I donāt care if youāre married or not. I care if you made a commitment to be faithful to someone and broke that commitment.
You seem to think that people are powerless over staying monogamous because of natural urges. Our whole society is set up to prevent people from acting on their natural urges, are you suggesting if 60% of people failed to stop stealing food when they were hungry we should allow people to steal?
A massive betrayal that the majority of people have done. Thatās the point.
You are either weeding out 60% of the population or asking to be lied to.
You are saying Iām wrong for thinking someone who cheats is unfit for public office. How is that not saying cheating is OK?
Why are you insulting people? No one is insulting you.
Doesnāt matter how many people have done it, itās still a massive betrayal, breaks trust, loyalty and exemplifies horrible impulse control.
I have never cheated on someone I was in a committed relationship with. My house is all glass and I am not buying insurance.
When you are looking for things to support a person for issues of integrity, trust, impulse control are important attributes. Everyone has a sliding scale as to how much these things matter to them. But again, that a lot of people cheat is not the gotcha you think. Most people who cheat think cheating is wrong.