is he toast? like when is he gonna get got? what are they waiting on?
On the one hand I don’t think the FBI would have so much stuff leaking about him if they didn’t plan to go after him, because they will look pretty horrible if nothing comes of it, not to mention his rape buddy flipping.
On the other hand Republicans never face consequences.
Will be interesting to see how a jury trial would play out. I’m convinced it will be really hard to convict any MAGA stars because they’re legit psychos. although they did convict Manafort of most things.
You know why I threw a toaster at you? Because you’re fucking toast
[[‘Indictment is ready’: Matt Gaetz ‘will face charges’ says former NY prosecutor - Alternet.org](https://)](https://www.alternet.org/2021/08/indictment-is-ready-matt-gaetz-will-face-charges-says-former-ny-prosecutor/)
Does that link need to be in rainbow text?
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i don’t need an additional reason to hate conservatives, and buckley is already on that list.
still, i am going to start calling them ‘crypto-nazis’ all the time.
The climactic moment of the movie, as it was of the debates, comes after the moderator, Howard K. Smith, refers to the fact that some of the antiwar demonstrators in Grant Park had brandished Vietcong flags prior to the police onslaught. Here, in full, is the relevant frank exchange of views:
smith : Mr. Vidal, wasn’t it a provocative act to try to raise the Vietcong flag in the park in the film we just saw? Wouldn’t that invite—raising the Nazi flag during World War II would have had similar consequences.
vidal : You must realize what some of the political issues are here. There are many people in the United States who happen to believe that the United States policy is wrong in Vietnam and the Vietcong are correct in wanting to organize their own country in their own way politically. This happens to be pretty much the opinion of Western Europe and many other parts of the world. If it is a novelty in Chicago, that is too bad, but I assume that the point of the American democracy—
buckley : (interrupting) : —and some people were pro-Nazi—
vidal : —is you can express any view you want—
buckley : —and some people were pro-Nazi—
vidal : Shut up a minute!
buckley : No, I won’t. Some people were pro-Nazi and, and the answer is they were well treated by people who ostracized them. And I’m for ostracizing people who egg on other people to shoot American Marines and American soldiers. I know you don’t care—
VIDAL (loftily): As far as I’m concerned, the only pro- or crypto-Nazi I can think of is yourself. Failing that—
smith : Let’s, let’s not call names—
vidal : Failing that, I can only say that—
BUCKLEY (snarling, teeth bared) : Now listen, you queer, stop calling me a crypto-Nazi or I’ll sock you in your goddam face, and you’ll stay plastered—
(Everybody talks at once. Unintelligible.)
smith : Gentlemen!
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the prosecutor is someone got $25m from trmp university? looool, o/u on gaetz is two slaps of the wrist and $100k settlement. go ahead, prove me wrong.
No she’s just commenting on it, she has no involvement
i see. still not actually hopeful at a sentence here.
What Vidal said about Buckley was not just malicious but false. Buckley was a reactionary, arguably a racist, and inarguably a homophobe. His magazine, National Review , was a passionate admirer of Francisco Franco, the Spanish dictator, and has always had a habit of likening liberals to fascists and Nazis. But William F. Buckley, Jr., was not an adherent of genocidal anti-Semitism. He was not a Nazi, crypto or otherwise.
lol fuck off, Nazi apologist
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The left’s version of the ever pending reinstatement
You guys said we’d never get the Repub senators on board for the 25th amendment!
Somebody needs a guillotining.
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That guy stole hundreds of millions of dollars from Medicare and nothing happened to him except he got to keep all the money
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But he also has to live with the shame of knowing that he violated norms. WOW! BOOM!
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Some people agree with this.
Oh great we’re digging up very old posts to fuck with me again, and as usual refusing to understand my point.
I don’t believe UBI is the best solution - not because of what it will do to the job market, as you’re implying - but because I think people get sucked into situations that aren’t best for them.
I think people need to feel useful to their tribe, and not everyone is going to be a self-motivated artist. But at the same time it’s easy to get sucked into doing nothing, and spiral downward. I’ve seen it happen to multiple friends on long-term govt assistance. They’re miserable. I’ve had the same thing happen to me when I work from home and have nothing to do.
This is just a theory that I can’t put my finger on, but I think there’s some corrosive psychological thing with being dependent on another person or entity for what seems like a free handout. Humans need at least the illusion that we earned that money. Otherwise our self-esteem goes into a spiral. Or something like that that I’m not stating very well.
I’d just like to see any other solution - free healthcare, negative income taxes, food stamps, child care credits, higher minimum wage, 20-hour workweek, free college, etc. etc. etc. exhausted first before we start giving people free money. Again - not because I give as shit about the job market, but because I think it turns into a venus flytrap for a lot of people, myself included.
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I understand your point. Its the same point they were making. That is what made me think about this.
Humans absolutely need something to feel proud of. People spiral just as quickly with millions of dollars and nothing to do as they do with zero dollars and nothing to do. Sometimes the rich people can feel proud of all the shit they own or whatever, and it works for them. Sometimes actual lazy poors can feel proud of being good at Fortnite and that works for them. But a really lotta people get in big trouble with no purpose.
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No it’s not the same point. They’re saying we need to take away unemployment to boost the job market. Fuck the job market - those assholes can just pay better.
I’m saying I’m leery of UBI because I think a good chunk of people will ultimately be miserable on it.
FWIW I could be wrong on this. Maybe everyone pushes through that phase and ultimately finds something to engage them and make them happy. But my sense is I’d still rather try all the other stuff first.
I think the vast majority of them instead try to convince themselves that they have made some big and important special contribution to society, and surround themselves with people that reinforce that attitude. The pre-20th century monarchs for example certainly enjoyed their material wealth, but I think they also were absolutely delusional about their role in the world and derived vast personal satisfaction from their totally made up narratives about God putting them in power to be shining examples to the peasants. It is absolutely striking how much this overlaps with the rich in America today.
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