GOP Insanity Containment: Beets, Gazpacho, and Lube

I figured they are just straight up white supremacist deplorable but they actually have a BLM blend? LOL.

You can absolutely blame him.

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Brady is smart enough to shut the fuck up and not risk his lucrative endorsement contracts so we don‘t really know where he stands.

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No what I mean is Schilling is full on deplorable. I’m surprised he didn’t storm the Capitol. A guy like Rivera is in an isolated bubble and likes Trump because he’s friends with Trump. If you don’t pay attention, you don’t realize how bad he is. I have family members that thought I was overreacting to Trump for 4 years and was absolutely appalled at the insurrection. My guess is Brady is more Rivera and less Schilling. The KC fan base on the other hand is full on Schilling.

45 Republicans just voted that it’s perfectly fine for a president to commit ANY and all crimes in their last weeks of office without impeachment repercussions

I truly don’t understand political strategy. In my view, Trump has a negative net gain on supporters since Jan 6th. Even factions of the Q, the proud boys, and oath keepers have disowned him after their conspiracy theories (such as the military swooping in to stop Biden’s inauguration) didn’t come to fruition. Trump also threw many of them under the bus that same night

So what calculation are these Republicans making that consist on a continued show of fealty to this man? Because the way I figure it, the best thing they could do strategically is cut the head off the beast and prevent him from ever running again

I get that they think his base is still strong, but I disagree. If we run this election over (post Jan 6th), Trump not only loses again, but by a larger margin and it’s not going to get any better. The only thing they’re doing is alienating the reasonable portion of their base and creating more RINOs

Am I wrong?

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It would be better for Rs as a whole to be done with Trump but guess on an individual level they are worried about primaries and think the hardcore Trumpkins still make up a solid majority of R primary voters.

They’re all like “let’s put this behind us” days after Trump tries to overthrow his own government, yet they won’t stop talking about Hillary’s e-mails.

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Many Rs are at no risk of losing to a Dem in an election, but are very much at risk of getting primaried by a QAnon idiot.

It makes a lot of sense to me.

The problem for Republicans is that the people who believe the election was stolen still make up a majority of the Republican Party. A Monmouth University poll released yesterday had 13% of Republicans approving of impeachment and 72% saying Biden’s win was due to voter fraud.

It’s really, really hard to go against the rank-and-file members of one’s own party if they strongly believe such things in such large numbers. Consider this the next time someone argues that Democrats are going against what they base wants.

Elections are much, much more about turning out the base than appealing to the center. It would be political suicide for Republicans to turn off their base. The nightmare scenario is a Trumpist third party which takes enough votes from Republicans to flip seats previously considered safely red. The “reasonable” portion of their base are people with a track record of holding their noses and voting for the crazies because of taxes or whatever.

Right now, I think that embracing Trump allows for Republicans to minimize losses if they view politics as a zero-sum game where a Democratic win is a loss for them. Obviously, that’s a flawed model they are using, but it is how they act. A possibly relevant analogy is whether Democrats would have lost less in 2010 by embracing and defending Obamacare instead of running away from it.

This is a mindset that will probably continue until we have the anecdotal evidence of elections suggesting a shift in voter behavior different from what Republicans are assuming. We might have our first test on March 20 when there are a couple of special elections in Louisiana to replace Cedric Richmond (joining the Biden administration) and Luke Letlow (LOL COVID). We might see some signs later this year in Virginia, where in the 2017 Republican gubernatorial primary, establishment figure Ed Gillespie narrowly beat Trumpist Corey Stewart for the nomination.

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Forget her e-mails. They’re still bitching that no wrong doing was found even after 6 investigations into her handling of Benghazi. This is typical Republican strategy and why this whole election fraud thing is such a joke. Even if voted fraud were investigated over and over they still would never let it go

I think its even worse than that - when the investigations show no fraud, the will think “Ah ha! Exactly as we suspected, they have destroyed all the records of fraud! Destroying voting records is Treason! We demand a trial” etc etc.

Shout out to Bill Cassidy, Rob Portman (WHO IS RETIRING) and the aptly named Jerry Moran for being part of the “bipartisan” senate caucus and voting to nuke impeachment before it starts. Profiles in courage.

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I’m definitely guilty of this, and it’s hard, but there is no point in arguing with Republicans. They are just evil and need to be defeated. They’re 100% OK with killing their political enemies, we don’t need to talk to them. At all.

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He is not an outspoken deplorable but he is super friendly with Trump, and a very weird dude.

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Who would you say is more center. Biden or Buttigieg? I’m guessing it’s Pete, but Biden isn’t exactly a leftist (although even I was happy with some of the EOs he signed today)

If appealing to the center isn’t exactly what wins elections, then I’m even more confused about what wins elections. The Dems seems to ignore their base constantly. An overwhelming majority support M4A, want to end wars, make public colleges free, end predatory lending, etc. I have a buddy who’s as progressive as I am, but insisted that Biden was the best person to go up against Trump because he appealed more to the center. The jury’s still out (in my mind) whether or not Sanders would’ve won, but I can’t argue with fact. Biden DID beat Trump even though he’s much more center than Bernie

Super grunch but had a client today tell me dems stole the 2012 election too… and the capitol riot was a staged attack. People were already in the building while Trump was talking and he had no ties to them.

Oh and it’s disgusting that Biden is undoing everything Trump did just to do it but Trump undid Obama’s stuff because it was the right thing to do.

These people man…how many brain worms can one get?

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This person would not be my client anymore.

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Armacost didn’t say anything, but the QAnon questions weren’t over. Next up, a Sequim resident who gave his name as “Josh” had an urgent question for Armacost: Could Armacost hold off on joining any new QAnon insurrections, even if just for a few weeks?

“At the very least, for the rest of this month, if you could promise not to commit any act of insurrection, that would be great,” Josh said at the meeting. “Just as a citizen of Sequim, I don’t like to be represented by terrorists. So if we could promise to finish out this month without killing anyone, that would be great.”

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You’re making the mistake of thinking that the Democratic base is defined primarily by ideology. Narrative matters more than individual policies.

A key component of the Republican base under Trump has been white people who are at least sympathetic to white nationalism and opposed to cancel culture that punishes people for being racist. The Democratic base is minorities who believe in identity politics and white people who believe in multiculturalism. Biden appeals to this base more than Buttigieg because he has a famous black friend.

There’s not really a center between these two sides. What is it, Hispanics who don’t want to be discriminated against but who want to discriminate against black people?

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I wish. I mostly deal with our more liberal clients but it’s not my call to make. I just smile and nod along. It’s a good window into how nutty some people are.