That’s actually pretty good. To put it over the top what we really need is a real-life Thom who is an Uncle Thom.
The places where that poem is taught, usually omit the first line, that being that they came for the communists.
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Which of the LGBTQ boxes does he check?
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True. Especially during the Cold War, I’d imagine that part was glossed over or not covered at all.
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The treatment of homosexual inmates in Nazi concentration camps is a subject which was largely ignored by historians in both West and East Germany after the war. Not until the 1980s, when research began to focus on some of the lesser-known victims of Nazi terror, did attention shift to the fate of homosexuals. This process can be seen clearly at the Buchenwald Memorial in the former GDR, the site of the persecution and also the death of considerable numbers of prisoners identified by the pink triangle on their clothing. The persecution of homosexuals in Nazi Germany began in 1933, even before Buchenwald was built in 1937. The Nazis aimed to eradicate homosexuality, which they saw as a threat to the survival of the German people. Incarceration in concentration camps like Buchenwald marked a stage in the radicalization of Nazi policy against homosexuals. There they were subjected to the harshest conditions and treated as the lowest of the low in the camp hierarchy. They were continually exposed to the terror of the SS but also the latent prejudices of the rest of the camp population. The culminating points of their maltreatment in Buchenwald were the use of homosexuals in experiments to develop immunization against typhus fever and the attempt by an SS doctor to “cure” homosexuality through the implantation of sexual hormones.
It was largely ignored as a fascist-specific phenomenon because places like Britain were still castrating gay men, including WWII hero Alan Turing.
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How much time ya got?
This is not, like, artistic license… this happened during the liberations of 1945. “Oh, not you, no, you’re not free.”
The Nazi-era amendments to Paragraph 175 were maintained for over two decades in West Germany, resulting in the arrest of around 100,000 gay men between 1945 and 1969, with some Holocaust survivors even being forced to carry out their sentences in prison.
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Eighty years later, while Holocaust remembrance has become an integral part of our civic duties, stories like those of Seel and other LGBTQ victims are often missing from that collective memory. This, however, isn’t the consequence of an accidental historical oversight. The truth is that for the queer survivors of Nazi oppression, 1945 did not bring about any kind of liberation; rather, it marked the beginning of a systematic process of persecution and willful suppression—one that would result in their erasure from the pages of popular history.
In the same vein as what I’d said ITT regarding its proven track record for starting off fascist movements:
Within the National Socialist vision, homosexuality represented an insidious “threat” to the “Aryan” race’s survival that needed to be stamped out. Although male homosexual activity had been technically illegal in Germany since the 19th century, it was generally tolerated and even celebrated within certain urban circles prior to Adolf Hitler’s ascension to power in 1933. Weimar-era Berlin came to be labeled as the “gay capital of the world,” a city where a booming queer nightlife scene was wedded with the budding dissemination of new academic ideas calling for greater acceptance of homosexuality and gender non-conformity.
Realizing the power these movements held, the Nazis began their anti-gay purges by immediately targeting the very hubs of queer cultural production and kinship, namely clubs, societies and Magnus Hirschfield’s renowned sexology research institute. Decades of pioneering work and community life had been erased, thus depriving queer Germans of their sources of solidarity both during and after the Third Reich.
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I think a fair bit of the dividing line between whether you were taught about queer Holocaust stuff was just how recently your textbooks were written.
I learned about it outside of school as a tween trying to figure out who to believe about what my attractions meant and what kind of life I was meant to lead, and it wasn’t until AP history classes that it was mentioned at all in school for me. What was mentioned was basically a footnote; just “incidentally, they also thought gay people were bad” with no analysis and no explanation of events that painted any kind of picture other than that they were a “meh, shrug, why not them, too” addition to the camps
Like when we read Anne Frank in middle school, there was definitely no larger context and no mentioning who else was in camps. And it was basically “no one knows how any of this horrible stuff happened” with no explanation of what fascism is, where it came from, where else it existed and continued, etc
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That’s where 99.9% of learning occurs for anyone with a pulse.
Who was this “them” that was not targeted? Most of the population of France was not targeted, so it wasn’t just Germans and it wasn’t just Nazis. Are you a cis-het White Christian and not a communist? If so you wouldn’t have been targeted. Saying the Nazis killed every group that wasn’t them, is denying what the racism (and other forms of group-hate) in fact was and it’s also a way of distancing current racism from anything the Nazis did, when (and this is AQ’s central point) it was very similar to what we see everywhere and has been here all along.
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Is one of, if not THE, key refrain(s) of Holocaust deniers and revisionists
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Raids?
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Catholics. Jesus Christ, dude. Maybe sit this one out.
NMW is a literal right wing troll. I’m not for banning people but I’m amazed there is anyone taking their posting seriously at this point. Their goal is to turn every thread into low content bickering.
Personally I found the content in this thread outside of that pretty interesting. I also was not taught about some of the other groups exterminated by the nazis.
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Please direct me to a single post of yours that isn’t this. One example. I asked for one example of Senators solving geopolitical problems recently to back up one of your asinine points and you ignored me. Because it isn’t possible to back up your bullshit. Ever.
AQ talks about gay people in the holocaust and you call it appropriation and you’re going to talk about Catholics! Germany was like a third Catholic.
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Well, that was poorly said, and I apologize. At least I know Putininst/Carlsonist propaganda when I see it.