What do you do for a living since you asked us?
I work in manufacturing counting parts.
Southerners feel the same way when you try to explain Southern history to them.
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Coalition politics is often about getting people together for a common goal, approached from different directions. It seems silly to me to insist upon a purity of purpose. If a general strike is a good idea, giving people several different reasons to participate is better than saying they should only do it for the “right” reason.
Reasonable point. However I’m arguing the mayday part will limit participation by allowing it to be labeled as radical leftist rather than the actual bipartisan issue the covid response clearly is to America given nearly everyone, even republicans, don’t agree with an early opening.
Is this the part where we call you a nazi because you help manufacture the machinery of the peoples oppression? Do any of those parts end up in military applications? What about evil mega corporations? Shouldn’t you sabotage your factory, tell your slave owner to fuck off, and set off to live off the street?
I bet you are even paid more than the guy who cleans the bathrooms in your plant. For shame!
No. You are just blindly asserting that.
To make an actual argument, you’d need have to back it up with some evidence. I’ll ask you again: cite some studies for your gibberish, or STFU fool.
Right wingers will paint it as radical leftist no matter what.
My theory of protest is that one goal of protests is to incite an over-reaction from the other side. Does the May Day angle make that more or less likely?
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Hmm. That’s an interesting angle. I guess I was thinking more pure numbers than messaging goal.
I like this idea. Maybe separate them into two?
We did this a bit back in the 90s when working against the WTO. We would split into agitation groups and peaceful protests groups which looked like separate organizations to the media but were, in fact, the same group.
At least I’m not a class traitor
First of all I definitely agree about poker being a -EV profession for society, and I do struggle with that.
But yea, looking at what other places are doing successfully to see what’s possible is my point. This is why I argue for policies and actions that bring us closer to places that crush us in quality-of-life metrics like Denmark, Sweden, or New Zealand, and sometimes against unproven solutions that are both less likely and less certain to have positive outcomes.
Certainly I wasn’t talking about team usa here.
WTO protests, 4th Avenue and Union Street, Seattle, November 30, 1999
A few comments regarding N30…
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The local Seattle unions endorsed a general strike. They were vetoed by their internationals. FYI: in the IWW this doesn’t happen, every branch has autonomy regarding actions.
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The organizers were well aware of 1919 Seattle general strike, and that history was featured in a significant amount of their propaganda.
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Anecdotally, it seemed everyone was talking about 1919 on the streets that day.
Thanks for the history lesson. I was actually there.
Did we see each other?
Isn’t Sweden doing less?
Talking about capitalism here not quarantine. Probably shouldn’t be following their lead on that one.
If you were there it’s possible.
Funny thing I was you back then. Dog eared copy of Das Kapital in one hand and the endlessly passed around copy of No Logo in the other. Jesus, I would literally quote Chomsky to get laid.
I knew tons of political theory but zero about how the world works.
I’ve grown up and now realize theory doesn’t feed the poor. Money does.
LOL @ absolute solidarity, the IWW has a long history of picking fights with other labor organizations. Despite being around for over 100 years they only have like 6,000 members, because they suck. Most workers don’t want their extremism, they’re happier with groups like the AFL negotiating on their behalf despite whatever Sabo and his revolutionaries think is better for them.
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As I noted above. The tiny membership is the feature for Sabo, not a failing.