Election 2022 Hopium Containment Thread

Doom and gloom is over there ——>

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Yeah, I’m not as optimistic. Everyone seems to think Warnock is a lead pipe lock, but I’m still gonna be sweating for 4 weeks.

Roberts was half foot in half foot out on it. He had some weird side concurrence. He would’ve voted with the Democrats imo if he was the deciding vote.

I don’t know about that. I think Mitch cares more about power than he cares about abortion. I don’t have him down as a true believer like Rubio, for example.

I guess we’ll never know, but surely there were challenges before Dobbs. Anyone know how he voted in those? I’m too high on the hopium to go research this.

Fine, I’ll go vote for Warnock again.

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We :heart: U

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Republicans are going to bail from Walker so fast now.

I think he cares about power for Republicans instead of for himself unlike people like Hawley and Cruz and that the supreme court being Republican for decades even if he’s not a part of it is exactly what he craves

I think you’re right though that he doesn’t really have any views that he’s passionate about including abortion. Just wants the white man world order

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Off to read r/conservative, schadenfreude is truly the greatest.

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lol, literally the first thread I click on

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Now seems a great time to do some trolling by suggesting populist policies that they would agree with and would never ever be a party position. I wonder if that’s what the first guys are doing

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YOU CAN ONLY VOTE ONCE, STOP THE STEAL!

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Oh, this is fantastic. I’m heading over now.

Roberts was a strong supporter of stare decisis. For example, he dissented in a 2016 case overturning a Texas law requiring doctors at abortion clinics to have admitting privileges, but he voted to overturn a similar Louisiana law in 2020, stating that he stood by the reasoning in his previous dissent, but believed it was important to uphold precedent.

His concurrence in Dobbs was an attempt to thread the needle of overturning the Mississippi law in question without overturning Roe. I agree that he would have been highly unlikely to provide the deciding vote to overturn Roe.

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This isn’t quite right - He would have voted with the Republicans if he was the deciding vote, but the opinion would have been different.

Actual case:

  • Majority of 5 rules two things: The state law is constitutional. Roe/Casey are overturned.
  • Roberts concurs that the state law is constitutional, does not sign on to overturn Roe/Casey.
  • 3 Democrats’ dissent rules that the state law is unconstitutional.

Hypothetical case with 4 Democrats on the bench, and where Roberts decides:

  • Majority of 5, including Roberts, rules that the state law is constitutional.
  • 4 Democrats’ dissent rules that the state law is unconsitutional.

Initially, the state of Mississippi didn’t even argue that Roe/Casey should be overturned. When they first filed for review (June 2020), they just wanted the court to judge whether their law was constitutional, which Roberts would agree it was. They explicitly said that this would not require overturning Roe/Casey. (“To be clear, the questions presented in this petition do not require the Court to overturn Roe or Casey.”) At that point, the court was 5-4 and Roberts would be the deciding vote.

But then after RBG died and ACB gave Republicans 5 votes to overturn Roe/Casey, Mississippi changed their argument, and said that the court had no choice but to either reaffirm Roe/Casey or overturn them. The court obviously wasn’t constrained to this choice, but the 5 justices did what they did.

So in a world where Roberts is the swing vote, Roe/Casey still stand in name, but the Mississippi law is constitutional and other states continue to pass laws whittling down the Roe/Casey protections until there aren’t really any protections left.

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This is my Rep and we’re in Darell Issa’s old district.

Thanks NBZ and Spidercrab. It’s all coming back to me now.

Hmmm gerrymandered senate seats is what they’re talking about?

Get fucked Putin