In b4 “I don’t bet on politics”
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I understand the need to vent but have you considered the possibility your views on what other people think might be a little too black and white?
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None of those words, except maybe obviously, refer to the strengths of people beliefs. They refer to the probability of an event.
I mean, while this is obviously true, every single “legal contributor” on MSNBC spews the same garbage take on national television.
I don’t bet on the legal system at all. The legal system is stupid, stilted, and slow and we are witnessing every bit of that with Trump. The thing that makes it different for him vs. others is there usually aren’t stakes like a guy who can wipe it all away by winning an election forcing LOLAW onto a clock. The system is not constructed to deal with this, because it’s stupid, stilted, and slow.
I’m telling you that I’m working on a massive project that is basically a lot of what you’re seeing today that began nearly 50 years ago (from criminal cases to the last civil trial, it took 11 years to get through his stuff and he got away with basically everything outside of two beneficial civil suit settlements but eventually went bankrupt).
That guy knew two things:
- If he had been a person of ordinary means, he would not have been charged with capital murder (they used a novel theory to charge him with that)
- If he had been a person of ordinary means, he would have been convicted extremely quickly based on the eyewitnesses and circumstantial evidence
That case practically broke the justice system in Texas and most people thought that guy could get away with anything forever. His money has created a lot of the political system we’re living under now and the parallels to Trump are often striking as a reporter who covered that story once told me not long ago. The key difference is Trump doesn’t have a woman by his side who’s willing to lie on any occasion for him.
Getting him to trials is what is necessary, regardless of the outcomes, because the clowns he has representing him are the worst of the worst and they believe all the things you do. Just like most around here did with every other criminal trial of a crony of Trump. Nearly every single indictment of a Trump crony has resulted in convictions, despite people being terrified of MAGA nullification.
The system is wildly stilted vs. poor people and rich people. It’s very difficult for either to get a fair trial. Clearance rates are almost always due to plea bargains, which people on the high end usually refuse to do. Paid lawyers being involved in cases dramatically reduce conviction rates. Great and/or famous paid lawyers take it down to close to zero. Lawyers like Trump has will likely eventually increase conviction rates if he loses the election. His lawyers are worse than most of the worst public defenders.
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Clovis is the most hyperbolic person on this site, so you have to take a lot of his 100% proclamations with a big grain of salt. My favorite movie review he ever wrote said something like this:
Amazing movie, one of the best westerns I’ve seen, one of the best of the year.
Grade: B+
I’m sure I got the language, genre, and whatever wrong, but I know I got the B+ right.
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You just said it’s hard for rich people to get a fair trial and that the system is wildly biased against rich people. I’m out.
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They convey the strength of your belief that people hold the extreme position you ascribe to them. I could be wrong but I don’t think you’re actually that sure.
I’m sure you completely don’t understand what I mean by that. It means that lawyers create the conditions for a very unfair trial for the prosecution
Don’t lump me in with them. My position has been that a lot of things could go either way and there’s not enough info to narrow the range of future possibilities as much as most people in this thread think.
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You guys are getting a bit heated here. Personally, I’ll be happy if I’m wrong and the legal system puts Trump away before he gets elected but I’m sure not gonna count on that happening.
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Yeah, his Elvis was a nobody take was pretty mind-blowing. I mostly post out of anxiety and I think I almost double up the next most frequent poster in this thread so I get the need to let it out. He can say what he wants.
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Trumps net worth is now 1.5 billion dollars after growing by 3 billion.
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I’m Canadian I don’t have venmo.
How have you defined “over”?
I’m in assuming the above two can be clarified.
For the record, I didn’t say he was nobody. I said he has little to no cultural presence today. A position I stand by.
It’s almost as if a letter grade of a piece of art is inherently subjective. 
Teflon Don
The debut comes at a critical moment for Mr Trump, who has been scrambling for cash to pay legal penalties and owns more than half of the firm’s shares.
He is currently barred from selling his holdings for at least six months, making it difficult for him to tap the windfall immediately.
The company’s board, which is stocked with allies including one of his sons, could potentially change that rule, but analysts have said they think that would be unlikely to happen immediately.
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Analysts say it’s unlikely to happen! 
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