The Hidden History of Sandersâs Plot to Primary Obama
Democratsâ previous president and maybe their next one have a particularly fraught relationship.
Warren âintolerableâ but Bernie âfeisty and passionateâ lol fuck off you sexist fuck
Thatâs kinda what I had in mind, but I wasnât really thinking protests and police riots. But now that you mention it, yeah, not impossible. Canât imagine the wonât be demonstrators outside when it hits the fan.
Iâm watching it or the first time on the DVR, and Attack Dog Liz is looking very Vice Presidential. Just fucking laying waste to this field in beast-like fashion. Damn it Liz, why did you sell out on healthcare??? You had this! Youâll be a good VP though.
you ainât kidding. i trolled my friends group chat happy birthday message yesterday and this was the reply
yeah this tweet would trigger the fuck out of my friends
I think M4A is great to campaign on, and eventually will pay dividends down the line.
However since thereâs no 60-seat majority coming any time soon, the best any president can hope for is fixing up the ACA some - which will be good. Bernieâs not going to be able to wave a magic wand and get M4A through Congress.
Liz isnât going to wave a magic wand and get slight improvements passed either!
And just because something wonât get passed doesnât mean you shouldnât fight for it.
I donât necessarily agree, they can get a majority and nuke the filibuster. Most importantly, though, they wonât get all of what they fight for - so itâs important not to start from a compromise position.
Yeah like I mentioned, thereâs a certain breed of third-way man - who worships Tim Ferris, has at least considered an all-male beat the war drum/howl at the moon camping weekend, and listens to JRE on 2x speed - whoâs also deeply misogynist and completely unaware of it.
Right - but youâre dragging Liz for what - considering a public option? That seems like splitting hairs.
None of your posts make any sense. Improvements to the ACA donât need a magic wand.
I specifically said M4A is good to campaign on because it will pay dividends down the line.
NBC uploaded the debate and removed the final question about if the person with the most delegates should win. They have since taken down the entire video.
Not a conspiracy tho.
Nah, for making that her opening position and doing so in a very disingenuous way where she claimed her plan was to get the full thing done after the midterm election, which would mean passing two major healthcare reform bills in a 2-3 year window, while gaining/holding majorities in the midterm election. Sheâs smart enough to know thatâs never happening.
If Bernie is just serious heâs an insanely angry screaming old man. Dunno if itâs that Jews as well as women who arenât allowed to step out of line.
Yeah like I mentioned, thereâs a certain breed of third-way man - who worships Tim Ferris, has at least considered an all-male beat the war drum/howl at the moon camping weekend, and listens to JRE on 2x speed - whoâs also deeply misogynist and completely unaware of it.
I donât think theyâre just completely unaware of it, they would object vociferously to the suggestion. Like a racist Republican, they would receive an accusation of misogyny as a personal attack on them rather than a valid criticism of their world view.
Bernieâs not going to be able to wave a magic wand and get M4A through Congress.
Half right, the magic wand doesnât need Congress to be involved as Trump already demonstrated. Declare healthcare a national emergency and issue an EO lowering the age of Medicare eligibility and let the courts fight it out, fuck it.
Liz isnât going to wave a magic wand and get slight
Yeah, this. There is no correlation between how progressive a policy is and how much resistance there will be. It took 60 D senators to pass a republican health care bill ffs.
Passing legislation is a different challenge than it used to be. If anything is gonna get passed filibuster has to go and we need to make DC into like 20 more States.
Otoh, this approach has merit.
Main area that Bernie wafflecrushes the field is in willingness to call out D roadblocks who are acting in bad faith (dissembling and selling out to lobbyists/corporate interests).
Look at how Trump has the R party marching in lockstop to defend his rampant corruption and lawlessness through sheer relentlessness, repetition and yes, high energy.
Donât tell me that you wonât even try do the same in trying to deliver healthcare for the American people, that it is a hopeless cause.
Loved, loved, loved Bernieâs side of this âdebate.â
To Obama, Sanders is a lot of whatâs wrong with Democrats: unrelenting, unrealistic, so deep in his own fight that he doesnât see how many people disagree with him or that heâs turning off people who should be his allies. To Sanders, itâs Obama who represents a lot of whatâs wrong with Democrats: overly compromising, and so obsessed with what isnât possible that heâs lost all sense of what is.
Democratsâ previous president and maybe their next one have a particularly fraught relationship.
I donât think theyâre just completely unaware of it, they would object vociferously to the suggestion. Like a racist Republican, they would receive an accusation of misogyny as a personal attack on them rather than a valid criticism of their world view.
Well you know, they see themselves as âgender realistsâ. Thereâs no malice. Itâs just that girl brains just donât do that poker/logic/scienc-ey stuff and society would be better off if everyone recognized it. Also donât you dare lecture me like youâre my Mom or something. I am emotionally detached from this issue and very smart.