Democratic Primary Debates

He looks like he just farted imo

I think it’s the pic they used at the Harvard newspaper. I could be wrong but it’s definitely that era :joy:

I don’t know for sure either but I’d guess it has something to do with Obama being unwilling to say “radical Islamic terrorism” when talking about ISIS.

A plant? I didn’t say that. I think she’s a Dem for expedience, just like her father who switched from GOP to Dem so that he could get elected in Hawaii.

She wanted him to say ‘radical islam’, and he wouldn’t. People wanted her to say Assad was a ‘brutal dictator’, she wouldn’t.

I didn’t say ‘silent assassin’, I said ‘selective assassin’. What that means is that anyone with views like hers is interventionist when it suits them, and isolationist when it suits them. Anyone who claims they are isolationist, but cares at all about foreign policy is not an isolationist. That defeats the purpose of being an isolationist. That’s it. Simple as that. With just that information, it should show you she is an absolute liar and a fraud.

Oh, and I just went to her wikipedia page, and ever since she got above the 2 percent threshold, they scrubbed her page of all of her early to mid 20s bad associations. They even scrubbed one of her things that had more in it to make it look better for her. She was mostly on ‘team bad guy’ less than 15 years ago, and still does a lot of ‘team bad guy’ things.

Yeah I probably missed the additional context that ISIS wasn’t doing anything related to Islam, and putting them into that group is what he was likely objecting to.

There was more then enough to bring him down in a non inept government. The centrists dems bought into the poll numbers and that there was no point in going that way if the senate would not convict. If in a different world where the dems controlled both houses he would of been gone. The fiasco is the republicans who are ok with whats in the report.

Here’s a reasonable article that goes a little more into Gabbard:

That’s a bingo imo

You don’t need to go into the weeds. Keep it simple. Isolationists with lots of thoughts on foreign policy are not isolationists. That’s a massive internal conflict that informs absolutely everything else about a person. You cannot trust a damn thing she says about anything. I am relatively confident every single relevant GOP person from Hawaii is an environmentalist, and I’d also not even be remotely surprised if they have similar stances to her on drugs.

https://twitter.com/NBCPolitics/status/1187116592674553856?s=20

Yes, you nailed it. We attack Tulsi because we really, really like Hillary Clinton. Fuck off.

God if we ever start banning people for being bad posters Npc will be the first person voted off the damn island. HRC is at best tolerated by maybe 40% of the posters here, and that’s because they haven’t processed the ridiculous amount of trauma her incompetence has directly caused them. The other 60% are at various places of the spectrum I represent the extreme wing of and hate her. I hate her more than I hate Trump which is really saying something.

To a large extent, these kinds of attacks are entirely due to the Democrats abandoning any kind of anti-war sentiment after 9/11 and just leaving the field wide open for Tulsi or whoever to hammer away the Iraq war vote. Like, Tulsi is obviously garbage but this was a self-inflicted wound.

Gabbard’s history with 9/11 is quite complicated, so she doesn’t have any high ground when it comes to war since that’s why she joined the military. Before the election in 2008 started, Clinton was specifically disqualified by me because of her Iraq War vote. The only election anyone would have actually wanted Clinton was 2004. People tried to draft her, but she refused. Strategy is not her forte.

No idea how that even remotely applies to the phrase “huge swaths of Democrats” or really anything I said.

Looks like the debate is going to happen.

Wow. Debate is going to be 3 hours.

Three hours of rehearsed lines, canned talking points, and questions straight from the GOP playbook.

Will I watch?

You’re god damn right I will.

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Only 7 candidates. Of course I’m watching. This will be the best debate yet, if only because they’ll all get to actually say some stuff.

EDIT: Yes I’m talking about Yang. A lot of you guys slept on this dude for a long long while. We’ve still got two months to Iowa and he’s way better at this than the competition. A strong media blackout and he’s solidly in 5th place and raising money really well.

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He’s behind biden/bernie/warren/pete/bloomberg that’s 6th. Barely made this debate too.