You guys realize that Joe doesn’t have plans that will help people right? Like I generally agree with the idea that our side should be constantly explaining to people how we help them, but I’m having trouble picturing what that might look like from the Biden campaign.
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I do. Trump won.
How is the Democratic strategy different this time?
There is a group C: Those who voted or might vote for Trump but will stay home if they can be convinced he is a failure.
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I disagree. There are tons of people who don’t typically vote that hate Trump. I am in AZ: ground zero for Trump haters that almost never vote otherwise (lots of poorer minority folks). I spend time every day talking to these people and MANY OF THEM don’t know there is an election in November; they don’t know a thing about mail in voting, they are plugged in enough that ads and GOTV is extremely important and useful to maximizing their votes. They don’t know much about Biden/Bernie/et. al. and certainly couldn’t differentiate between them. The KEY is that whoever it is, isn’t Trump.
Most obviously, they are running a candidate that doesn’t inspire Cops/Union Guys to recoil at the mere mention of his first name.
This time orange man very bad.
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And the alternative is not a bossy woman!
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People who don’t like the attack ads, If they put you guys in charge of making a Joe Biden ad what would it say?
You’re being facetious, but I’ve talked to many apolitical folks who voted Trump because they thought he would “shake things up” and wasn’t just more of the same (like he was a Jesse Ventura type), and that he could get things done due to his business acumen. This group is almost invariably disappointed by his incompetence to such a degree they will vote for whoever is on the ballot that isn’t Trump.
There a difference between “Trump is a bad guy” and “Trump is a bad president”. People will tolerate a bad guy who they think is a good president. They won’t tolerate a bad president even if they think he is a good guy.
Trump being an incumbent makes 2020 different from 2016.
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Cast your memory back to 2018, when Dems ran on defending Obamacare.
So the answer to my question of “How is Democratic strategy different this time” is that it’s not?
Why should it be?
Democratic strategy of “Trump bad”=rock
Republican strategy of “Hillary bad”=paper
Republican strategy of “Trump good”=scissors
Also, Trump’s message was a lot more than just “Hillary Bad” --he all kinds of red meat that he was constantly tossing out to his audience: build the wall, send the brown people back to Mexico, jobs for coal miners, tax cuts for awval, etc. etc.
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Uh…because they lost last time?
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Just lie like he’s been doing I guess.
We can’t even convince the centrist leaners on this board that dems should actually do things that help people, so I don’t really think we have a chance
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Give me a break. It’s nuts how hard it seems for people to differentiate kind from degree.
He is for expansion of healthcare public option and lower Medicare age to 60. Trump is for removal of many current public options
He is for forgiving student debt for the poor. Trump is for removing a bunch of existing subsidies
He is for increased trade trump is an isolationist
Biden’s infrastructure plan includes climate change money. Trump thinks it’s a hoax.
Biden want to roll back tax cuts and increase taxes on the 1%. Lol trump.
Biden wants to raise minimum wage to $15. Trump lol rotfl.
If you really think they are the same or Biden won’t help people you simply are not paying attention.
In before, “but bernies plans were better”.
The left comes across as the petulant child that wanted a wind-powered car for their 16th birthday, and is unwilling to settle for a solar-powered one.
Has any of this been in literally any Biden ad?