If only premium costs were the only expenses related to healthcare for a family…
How’s that $10,000 deductible treating you?
Obamacare: What can your new High Deductible High Premium Health Plan do for you today?
The video in question in case people don’t wanna click through:
https://twitter.com/jordanuhl/status/1236092311328690176
Need to start calling these motherfuckers out on their made-up bullshit.
I guess I just don’t understand how you’re spiking the football over this while completely ignoring the fact that people are unable to use their more expensive, albeit slightly less than it COULD be, health insurance because in order to keep premium increases under control the companies had to drastically increase deductibles and max OOP costs.
You’re like the guy who is excited that you got $500 knocked off the sticker price of the car, but then has no problem signing up for the 29% 72 month financing plan. You’re getting screwed, friend.
We should get some things clear right now. First off, the ACA was a completely compromised bill that the Republicans absolutely fucked every time there was a markup before it passed. Second, The point of it was to get healthcare in the hands of more people and to cover things healthcare companies refused to cover in the past, all while starting us on the road to universal healthcare - something every single other industrialized country in the world has figured out offers way better care for way less cost per capita. Third, premium costs in a majority of states were scheduled to actually decrease this year until the right decided to sabotage multiple aspects of the ACA. The ACA was a flawed bill in its original form, but it offered broader coverage and SMALLER annual cost increases than what we had before it, and costs would be stabalized/decreasing right about now if not for the utter disdain Republicans have for everyone but the rich.
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And while we’re at it, profits in the healthcare industry are in the billions annually and those profits represent a large portion of the industry pie, unlike what Inso ‘believes.’
I’m not sure if you want to dismantle the entire business of healthcare, but the one most under attack by M4A supporters is the insurance industry. They enjoy big fat margins in the 3% range.
The largest margins are in the healthcare technology industry. As in, the place where all the innovation happens. Let’s eliminate the incentive to invest in that. What could go wrong?
Edit: Sorry, this isn’t a healthcare thread and there are hundreds of you and one of me. I’ll drop it.
The reason there is only one of you is because your views are pathetic. BCBS alone last year made over $4 billion. More than 10% profit. Not to mention the officers of the company raking in nearly $50 billion between them. Not to mention they spend barely over 60% of the premiums collected on medical care.
It is disgusting. And yes, I am sure. Not one segment of the healthcare industry should be for profit. Let’s not change it you say - what could go wrong?
You’re right, no healthcare innovations exist in countries with single payer. Great point.
This is closer to the truth than you realize.
Chapo Trap House has destroyed more lives than the coronavirus.
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Chapo Trap House, the current #139 podcast on Apple podcasts…
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No, it’s not. You just continue to spew the right wing talking points even though every one of them is dead wrong. This is a shining example. Most innovation is funded by the national institute of health. Universal health care will have zero effect on that. The quest for profit is not the driving force behind innovation.
Student labor being compensated would hurt the industry 1000x more than single payer in the USA and I might be generous on the gravity.
Of course there’s more on Lindy Li. Like way more and it’s all drama. But here’s a telling paragraph from a Vanity Fair piece that is sympathetic to her and yet another hit piece on Bernie:
But there was no stopping “Rose Twitter”—many Sanders supporters sport rose emojis on their Twitter profiles—which Li says “was outraged,” pummeling her with tweets. On her Facebook page, commenters called her a “piece of shit racist” and a “shitty bitch.” She was also being called an anti-Semite, which she was especially upset about. (Li is very close with a woman, Tereza Solomon, who is Jewish, and who she met a few years ago.) The charge stemmed from another Twitter incident, in early January, when she retweeted one of Solomon’s tweets calling Sanders a “self-hating Jew,” upsetting those who felt that only a Jew could call another Jew self-hating. Li apologized and deleted the tweet and the controversy died down, but the Berners dredged up the accusation in light of the video.
Not addressing the position on UHS, but you have to be very specific in defining how the NIH works in terms of medical “innovation”.
The NIH does exceptional work in terms of basic research. In terms of actually, saying, producing a medication that would be used by a doctor to treat a patient, almost never. The reasons are way beyond the scope of any sort of article here, but for a good overlook spend some time reading “In the Pipeline” by a guy named Derek Lowe, who’s a Phd medical chemist (with a lot of timely stuff on Coronavirus) - but the vast majority of what the NIH does has little to nothing to do with actual drug production, or at least of any sort of something related to health care.
Now why we got here, and should the NIH be tasked with doing that sort of work - that’s an interesting discussion.
MM MD
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Meanwhile, what have health care costs been doing in the Netherlands? I’m sure they must be worse, right?
In before “lol, there are no black people in the Netherlands, of course they are cheaper.”
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Let’s be real. 20% chance is generous. They will tip the scales as needed to ensure Sanders doesn’t win whatever the results of the primaries. Liz is never going to endorse because she decided a long time ago he was in her way. The only real shot is that Biden has a gaff explosion while some big players in the media simultaneously have a momentary epiphany that he is totally unelectable. We need both very negative events from him and the media to cover it. His campaign is not stupid and has spent the last year hiding him from cameras. Really I think our only chance is this upcoming debate. Even then, the media will likely just complain that someone in Montana said something mean.
Also that Hannity clip is brutal. It would be very generous in my view to give Biden a 35% shot in this election head to head. R’s will be able to very successfully run a low turnout election which is just shit for the D’s in every way, presidential race, down ballot, ballot initiatives, everything, total fucking disaster.
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House Majority Whip James Clyburn, the South Carolina representative partly credited with giving Joe Biden the boost he needed to revive his campaign, said that he thinks the former vice president is doing what he needs to win the nomination.
Asked on MSNBC if Biden is making the right adjustments to his campaign — which looked to be on the decline before his massive win in South Carolina over the weekend — Clyburn said, “I think so.”
“I thought fundraising was lacking” in Biden’s campaign “and needed to be more professionalized,” Clyburn said. Biden’s speeches also needed to convey more feeling than simply being a list of policy proposals, the South Carolina congressman added.
Biden “has a tremendous history” and is “just a good guy,” Clyburn said, “but people were not feeling it.”
But his roll out of endorsements Monday night from former rivals Beto O’Rourke, Amy Klobuchar and Pete Buttigieg showed “professionalism at his best,” Clyburn said.
If that level of campaigning continues, Clyburn said, then Biden “is going to be very successful, and he will be our nominee and I really, deeply feel he will be the next president of the United States.”
finger on the pulse there Clybes