Democratic Primaries 2020 - Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

Glad to see you skydiver8!

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We don’t all laugh about it here, some of us have been arguing constantly with the likes of Vict0ar about his toxicity toward others who we’ll eventually need support from.

Sorry your guy dropped out before Super Tuesday, I’m sure you would have like to see it through the vote in California at least.

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Bernie is so much more effective when he’s running a positive message. Everyone already hates establishment Dems, there’s diminishing returns in going negative.

It’s even less likely that any of the politicians are more afraid of Bernie than Trump.

lol Obama. Turned a once in a generation mandate and alignment of power into a GOP heath care plan and endless free money for asshole bankers, plus forever wars.

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Yeah, the Pete/Warren hate has been excessive and completely counterproductive now that we need to convince people like skydiver to get on the Bernie Express.

I vote for Biden over Trump any day, but I think Bloomberg is my breaking point. Intellectually I guess the country is better off with him over Trump and I should vote for him, but I’m not made of stone.

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Ill never get how somehow people being mean on the internet is worse than I don’t know literally being for things like the Iraq War and being a co-sponsor on the three strikes law. It’s almost as if, I don’t know, it’s cover for what these people were going to do all along. It’s this cycle’s version of “the internet was too mean to the racists so they had to vote Trump”.

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To clarify, Bernie winning still gains the EDems power relative to Trump winning. If you think they prefer Trump to Bernie, you believe in a world where high-level politicians reject power because they have some abstract fear of Bernie.

Besides the fact Bernie would be very likely to clean out all of the grifters in the party leadership (which let’s be real is like 95% of the party’s power structure) you would be right.

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How would he do this, exactly?

The same way Trump did?

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I mean, Obama? Pete? Warren? They aren’t afraid of Bernie, lol.

Do you think Pete or Warren are part of the Dem party leadership?

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I’m sure the Bushes and Mitt Romney didn’t anticipate being neutered by Trump either. In a full blown remake of the Dem party by the Bernie/AOC wing it would be either get on board or move aside to people like Obama and his lackeys and Pete.

Trump took out very few establishment R’s. Didn’t stop Romney, McConnell, Graham, Cruz.

Y’all sure as hell seem to think they are part of some EDem cabal.

Those people pretty much all serve at Trump’s pleasure at this point. And if you don’t you get marginalized pretty quick (see: Romney, Mitt)

It’s easy to say now but if it’s Biden I think I just completely check out from current events. If a change agent can’t win in this environment, gg.

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sad i don’t vote for another week. have fun everybody who votes tomorrow.

We’ve had people on this very forum say “but, he’s not really a Democrat”. Don’t you guys get that the real Democrats, the people who have been involved with The Party for years all think he’s not really a Democrat and shouldn’t be the nominee? He’s obviously a Party crasher and they don’t like it. He’s a non-Democrat vying to be the top Democrat. They don’t need to conspire to know that they all feel that way. If I didn’t think the whole system sucked and the Parties needed to be destroyed, I’d feel that way.

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