Democratic Primaries 2020 - Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

the audience will be comprised of invited Iowa Democrats

Probably party insiders, centrists, and “independents”.

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This is not all directed at Cuse, but Americans in general don’t do sarcasim especially in this time period… :rofl:

Bernie should boycott CNN events.

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Some good (new?) context in here about the Warren/Sanders angle.

NOT LONG AFTER meeting with Sanders at the end of 2018 to discuss her impending presidential run, Warren hosted an off-the-record dinner with a number of journalists, according to sources with knowledge of it. At the dinner, Warren was asked about her meeting with Sanders, and in the course of the discussion, she relayed that Sanders had warned that he didn’t believe a woman could beat Trump in 2020. Different reporters recalled the comments differently, a mirror image of the dispute between Warren and Sanders over exactly what Sanders said — with Warren saying that Sanders argued a woman couldn’t beat Trump, while Sanders said that he only said Trump would weaponize misogyny against a woman, not that it would work.

since Warren told the story more broadly to a group of journalists, CNN’s sources could have come from outside the campaign. The revelation does not rule out the possibility that someone in her campaign was a source, but it opens up other possibilities, as well.

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My impression is that it was known gossip that was circulating around, but that no one was willing to be a source for a story until the talking points story.

Just going to leave this here…

https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/democratic-primary-debates/61/5361

https://mobile.twitter.com/studentactivism/status/1218297912809181184

Considering I’ve posted Mayor Pete, Warren and Bernie info I find the broadbrush strokes here by some to be irritating.

Just stop… Ffs

well Biden’s done a good job, I don’t know at this point what part of him is saying that–a fucking fool or pandering to the old timey audience who eats up that shit despite every single person on this forum realizing that’s complete nonsense.

Given that this meeting with reporters occurred, it seems wilder your way. We know now that Warren spoke about Bernie’s comments to a large number of people a year ago, specifically reporters, so this would’ve been known gossip well outside of the campaign. I find it hard to believe she intended it to be a hit job back then or even that big of a deal because campaigns hadn’t even started, and again it’s just a really weird line of attack - there’s no reason to believe it would be an effective line against Bernie.

So the theory now is that she wanted to hit Bernie with something before the debate, and she chose this piece of information that the media already knew about, that was so insignificant back then that she felt fine sharing it with a room full of reporters, off the record of not, and again doesn’t make much sense as an attack. Or the other theory, CNN/some other campaign wanted to drive a wedge between the progressive candidates and get them fighting, so they decorated up an off hand comment from a year ago as BREAKING NEWS and suggested it came from the Warren campaign. Meanwhile the actual attribution was this:

I mean reading that now with context the sources could literally be reporters from that meeting. In fact if they were from the campaign it’s actually a bit odd of CNN to leave out that detail, don’t you think?

I have a theory: Bernie is the Loch Ness Monster. He tries to cover it up by asking for 80 cents less, but boy does he badly want that $2.70 and so very often.

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I came away from the story with the guess that the two people she spoke to soon after the meeting we’re people she was consulting about running (I wonder if she met with Obama in that timeframe) and the two people with knowledge were campaign staffers, maybe even Warren herself.

https://mobile.twitter.com/jordanchariton/status/1218641631630495750?s=21

A bold strategy by Biden. If him calling this doctored, when it isn’t, goes viral, it could be super awful for his campaign, since he is leading the vote with people currently taking Social Security

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https://twitter.com/Politics1com/status/1218501789185642496

I want to laugh but he’s the R that can actually lose a senate race in Kansas, since he actually did lose the governor race in Kansas so no, go ahead endorse him again instead.

Next thing you know Biden won’t have supported the war in Iraq or mass incarceration. 2+2=5 for Joe too I guess.

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Sleepy Joe has the enviable position that his best political play is always to take a nap

relatable

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lol

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So I read the politifact column on this, which claims that Bernie’s characterization of Biden in the 2018 video is “false”.

Then I watched the video, which is included in the column, and I just have no idea what they’re talking about. Like, it is not at all clear to me that Biden is trying to be sarcastic or whatever BS they’re using to defend them. In fact he closes with “we need to raise enough revenue to make sure that the Social Security and Medicare can stay, it still needs adjustments, but can stay” which seems to be… exactly what Paul Ryan’s plan is?

That’s ignoring the fact that Biden literally has like 40 years of history advocating cuts to SS and Medicare:

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The Third Way Dems were trying to privatize social security. Bill Clinton was working on that with Newt Gingrich when the Monica Lewinsky scandal put the kibosh on that.

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2008/05/29/the-pact-between-bill-clinton-and-newt-gingrich

And …

An August 1997 survey by Clinton pollster Mark Penn found that 73 percent of Democratic voters favored some form of privatization

https://mobile.twitter.com/RepJayapal/status/1218937411146780673

Endorses TheBern :v:

https://mobile.twitter.com/cascamike/status/1218943725008773120

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