Average hospital bill for child birth: $32,000
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not a millennial, but they’re goddamn right I’m selfish and that’s why I don’t have kids. We fucking love having enough money and freedom to travel and do what we want, when we want (for the most part). I’ll be 100% honest and come right out and tell you that I would resent a child for taking that away from me, and in the end, no child deserves that.
I would be a shit parent, and I know it.
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That same group: “People shouldn’t have kids unless they can afford them.”
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So true. Also fuck the Boomers. Their capacity for tolerating vast amounts of cognitive dissonance blows my mind.
Translation: More middle class white people (especially my own kids) should be having kids and not those other people.
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But NO ABORTIONS!
My Canadian stepmother went back to Alberta 15 years ago for open heart surgery since she couldn’t get it in the States after having been laid off and losing her insurance. She is a massive Trumpkin now.
Let’s also give a healthy fuck off to people who claim everyone would be objectively happier if they had kids while at the same time never experiencing a moment of happiness themselves.
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I don’t judge anyone for their decisions regarding kids one way or another, but in my personal experience my friends and coworkers without kids seem much less stressed and much happier in general. I think the wife and I are leaning towards no kids, we just enjoy doing stuff together with no obligations and lots of money too much.
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Yup, having had kids (that I wanted!) I of course love 'em to death and can’t really imagine life without them, but if I happen to have not had them for whatever reason, I’m sure I wouldn’t exactly feel this emptiness in my life either. Creating a person and slowly guiding them towards adulthood is a hell of a thing, but holy fuck if it isn’t like being given a 2nd and 3rd job that you have to pay money to do.
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It is epic gaslighting for boomers to rig the whole damn game in their own favor at the expense of their children then complain the children aren’t succeeding. God I fucking hate boomers, absolute garbage humans.
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I’m a bit of a zealot on the kids question (on the “no” side), but I’ll try not to be too strident here… Just drop a couple links that might give “no-ish” people some additional stuff to think about.
If you care about the environment, why not give VHEMT a try? The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement is a humorously serious look at having kids and the environment. I especially like the Why Breed? table.
http://vhemt.org/
Life sucks sometimes, doesn’t it? All that purposeless suffering, and the certainty of sickness and death. Some people have it so bad that they kill themselves to escape. Maybe it would have been better if they hadn’t been forced to exist? Enter antinatalism.
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43, married 10 years, no kids, fuck kids. 
One of the things I’ve always thought many pro-choice people have gotten wrong in their characterization/analysis of the basis for conservative Christian opposition to abortion is their insistence that it’s about controlling a woman’s body. I think for most conservative Christians, especially women, it is about morality, not control. They see sexual promiscuity (read: sexual activity outside marriage) as a grave sin and a sort-of cultural blight that will lead/is leading to the decline of society. Abortion, contraceptives, and sexual education remove the “consequences” to having sex outside marriage, ie getting pregnant or getting an STI. They see these consequences as a net positive because in their minds it discourages sexual promiscuity thereby lessening then social decay. That’s why they still oppose comprehensive sexual education and wide access to contraceptives even though it’s shown to reduce the incidence of abortion.
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Only if women do it. It can be looked at many ways, but one thing is crystal clear: It’s sexist as fuck.
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It’s definitely a lot. I wasn’t planning on kids but life happens. My son is 10 months old and the lady and I work opposite schedules right now and it’s definitely a 2nd job. I take of him by myself after work M - F.
Obviously boomer mom has no empathy for how I feel about being stressed and tired because she raised TWO of us… and also didn’t have to work. But ya see it’s really just my bad attitude and lack of work ethic and you damn kids don’t want to work hard etc.
Boomers are unbearable.
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No, it’s perceived as wrong if men do it, too. The policy is sexist, yeah. But for most conservative Christians, it’s about morality, not control.
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They can say that. Their voting records say otherwise.
What do you mean?
Conservative Christians overwhelmingly voted for that paragon of morality named Donald Trump. If it comes out that he paid for an abortion, he would lose ~zero support from them.
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