Lying about how you never got a source despite the fact that I gave you exactly what you asked for is pretty obvious bad faith.
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The source you posted didnât answer his question though and his statement that
zero sources that actually showed it to be more than hopeful at this point
is correct.
I retract this post.
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No, itâs not. Youâre flat out wrong and itâs depressing to see discussion devolve into this sealioning garbage
https://twitter.com/freja_kirsebom/status/1469350555084546054?t=SQQVzQSCB5s66dfGib7n5A&s=19
This is not just hopeful. It is a literal measurement of vaccine effectiveness against infection, 2 shots and boosted, against omicron, that shows a substantial increase in protection from boosters.
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False
The public health agencyâs previous estimate that the rapidly spreading variant accounted for 73.2 percent of cases nationwide on Dec. 18 is now revised down to 22.5 percent â a significant drop that falls outside the agencyâs earlier 95 percent prediction interval, or likely range where future analysis will fall, of 34 to 94.9 percent of all cases.
CDC sharply drops estimate of Omicron prevalence in U.S. - POLITICO
I presented a source that I thought addressed JTâs concerns. Iâm happy to hear an explanation for why it wasnât adequate, but you canât say there hasnât been a good faith effort to back up claims with sources.
The whole point of asking him, up front, what would be acceptable was to avoid the sea lion bullshit thatâs since followed. He will try to change the standard met to just beyond whatever you post, even when he himself admits that itâs far more likely than not a booster will have a positive effect. Itâs obvious bad faith and we should move onâŚ
You mean the omicron variant? There are literally data points in that figure labeled OMICRON. ITâS RIGHT FUCKING THERE. The data were published December 10th. Itâs not pre-omicron. Itâs measuring omicron.
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How does his source not show Omricon?
Edit: ponied
I dunno. Maybe open circles arenât real data points and only filled squares count as data.
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I didnât notice the key in the bottom left until you pointed out it existed and just skimmed the text of the tweet and assumed it was still only referring to Delta, my apologies.
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What part of âTwo doses of BNT162b2 with a BNT162b2 booster doseâ donât you understand?
Is there any particular reason they arenât letting anyone who wants a booster get one? Seems absurd at this point to make people who are four months out wait two more months, considering Omicron will probably have burned out by then.
What heâs trying to do is hold others to the same standard that churchill is held to in this thread. He hasnât changed his standard (although he did misread wookieâs evidential tweet), heâs trying to keep things factual when answering JordanIBâs question about booster efficacy against omicron instead of letting things like âthe general consensus is Xâ posted without evidence stand.
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And also Wookieâs tweet was not the âevidenceâ that CN produced. CN produced a reference to a study that was pre-omicron mixed in with some personal speculation.
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Whatâs that now? Sealioning?
Edit: Never mind. Just googled it. Never heard of it before today.
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Sealioning is a harassment tactic by which a participant in a debate or online discussion pesters the other participant with disingenuous questions under the guise of sincerity, hoping to erode the patience or goodwill of the target to the point where they appear unreasonable.
I donât believe this is what Johnny is doing but CN isnât the only person who has made the claim.
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40,780 new cases in New York State yesterday with a 19.4% positivity rate
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