COVID-19: Chapter 9 - OMGicron

I probably read your post too quickly.

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I’m incredibly fucking angry right now and probably should take a break from #onlinelyfe. While I realize that the sacrifice of not going to the orange bowl is a small thing compared to others, and hell even me, the fact that I don’t think I can go without being a complete idiot is infuriating. Been a massive Michigan fan since 2003 and I’ve always wanted to go to something like this.

Fucking hell. To be honest, if it was just me at risk, I’d be going.

edit: lol jbro

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I was referring to yesterday’s “bickering” and the source of it. I managed to stay out of it yesterday, but when the chief perpetrator then complains about other posts not being sourced to his preferred specifications it’s a bit much. I’ll drop it now.

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Alright. Feel free to flag anything similar you see in the future.

ATTENTION THREAD: IF YOU POST ANYTHING FROM AN EXTERNAL SOURCE OR ARTICLE, PLEASE CITE THE SOURCE OR ARTICLE. THIS DOES NOT TAKE LONG AND IS EASY TO DO.

Thats all I ask. Anything that happened yesterday I didnt see. Id like this thread to be as scientifically accurate as possible and that starts with us being able to trace claims back to their original source.

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Is there a way you can swing that? Just go and then self quarantine for a while. Return home after a few positive tests.

Obviously it requires being away from family and job for more than just a long weekend, so if that’s not possible then I guess you’re out of luck.

These recent links seem to come from The Guardian, which is a reasonably legit news outlet afaict.

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No because I won’t be able to safely quarantine when I get home. Expecting a baby. Latest arrival will be 1/11.

Got special permission from the wife to go this late in the game. Had my flights scheduled so I was gone for a total of 36 hours. Data seemed fine at the time of scheduling, and it was something that is a bucket list item for me, so we were going to do it.

But I’m not giving Covid to my newborn because I had to go to a football game. Not going to quarantine for the first week of her life either. Which is obvious and logical ofc, but I’m still very upset about it.

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I would have suggested staying at a hotel near your house for X days and then returning home after that. Baby obviously changes everything. Yeah, don’t see how you could go. Even with no COVID you would be cutting it pretty close.

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I learned my front front door wasn’t locked b/c my package delivery driver thought to be nice and put it inside there

god damnit I literally would rather have all the snow on it.

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I seem to remember there was some service you could opt for where Amazon would actually deliver the package inside your door. I forget the details of how it works. Anyone know if that is still a thing?

Lying about how you never got a source despite the fact that I gave you exactly what you asked for is pretty obvious bad faith.

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The source you posted didn’t answer his question though and his statement that

zero sources that actually showed it to be more than hopeful at this point

is correct.

I retract this post.

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No, it’s not. You’re flat out wrong and it’s depressing to see discussion devolve into this sealioning garbage

https://twitter.com/freja_kirsebom/status/1469350555084546054?t=SQQVzQSCB5s66dfGib7n5A&s=19

This is not just hopeful. It is a literal measurement of vaccine effectiveness against infection, 2 shots and boosted, against omicron, that shows a substantial increase in protection from boosters.

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False

The public health agency’s previous estimate that the rapidly spreading variant accounted for 73.2 percent of cases nationwide on Dec. 18 is now revised down to 22.5 percent — a significant drop that falls outside the agency’s earlier 95 percent prediction interval, or likely range where future analysis will fall, of 34 to 94.9 percent of all cases.
CDC sharply drops estimate of Omicron prevalence in U.S. - POLITICO

I presented a source that I thought addressed JT’s concerns. I’m happy to hear an explanation for why it wasn’t adequate, but you can’t say there hasn’t been a good faith effort to back up claims with sources.

The whole point of asking him, up front, what would be acceptable was to avoid the sea lion bullshit that’s since followed. He will try to change the standard met to just beyond whatever you post, even when he himself admits that it’s far more likely than not a booster will have a positive effect. It’s obvious bad faith and we should move on…

You mean the omicron variant? There are literally data points in that figure labeled OMICRON. IT’S RIGHT FUCKING THERE. The data were published December 10th. It’s not pre-omicron. It’s measuring omicron.

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