COVID-19: Chapter 6 - ThanksGRAVING

Side effects are one thing. Mutagenic activity is another. It did seem like an out of nowhere announcement today. With vaccines on the horizon the window for therapeutic based stock increases is limited.

Yes. Obviously the mutagenic risk is the bigger deal, but even so, gotta be at least 75%, maybe 90% of covid cases are less bad than a dose of chemo. It may be relevant with bad side effects if it can help the worst cases, but the utility for most people would then be limited.

would mutagenic defects not be a concern for older patients?

Mutagen is essentially cancer causing.

Teratogen is the one that causes birth defects.

(Lay definitions).

Holy hell. Map is animated in the link.

https://twitter.com/drericding/status/1334703963074158592?s=21

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Fuck me, we added 6 million positives in 2 months?

Holy shit

Overwhelmingly likely to add another 6 million this month alone.

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Exponents suck. Unless you are trying to grow a very large tank of bacteria. Then they are awesome.

I saw some stat that said of all the people that have had Covid something on the order of 15-20% have it currently (14 day sum?). We’ve been growing daily cases at 3-5% for over two months.

1.03^60 is roughly 6 fold. So yeah 30k/day to 200k/day.

At a little over 200k per day, 1% of Americans will get infected in a two week period.

And those are known cases. Pick your multiplier for the real numbers (3-5x to go higher).

Way late here but dkl9s what is your heart condition?

I was born with a bicuspid aortic valve and a mitral valve prolapse. Mostly just affects my heart’s capacity but has never affected my life in any material way. No idea if it will affect my vaccine positioning.

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Bicuspid aortic valve. Just discovered it a couple years ago. Like you, I don’t believe it has affected my life at all. Doc just said to go back to him every couple years to monitor it. One of my best friends from high school is like a big time research cardiologist or something at Mayo (he has a Ph. D and was interviewed in a Mayo documentary). I showed him the paperwork with all the findings and what-not and he said the same thing. He did say there’s a chance it will need to be fixed in 10-15 years, but at the same time, maybe not.

Unfortunately, I haven’t been able to get life insurance because of it. If I try again, I might see if the doctor can write a letter saying it shouldn’t affect my life expectancy or something.

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It comes as Italy announced its highest daily Covid death toll since the pandemic started, with 993 fatalities.

Before Thursday, the country’s previous record daily death toll was 969 on 27 March.

https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1334641685154902021

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Indoor
Dining
Is
Insane

Places are trying to make things better with partitions but man I would need to see an expert air flow dynamics engineer certify that my table is isolated in its air flow from others. Not going to happen.

In other news. Idiots Out Walking Around:
IOWA

https://twitter.com/elainejgodfrey/status/1334523417341685760?s=21

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The fact that zero public officials will face any consequences over what is going on enrages me.

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I thought airflow was good. I guess unless it’s flowing from a pozz to you?

I think floor to ceiling airflow that is filtered and then recirculated is good. I would imagine a fan is very bad.

In these cases of “A infected B from 21 feet away!”, how is that even determined? If this thing incubates for anywhere from 2 to 14 days, how do we know with certainty who is infecting who? I was on a work call the other day where a COVID update was given, and someone said “Well, the good news is cases have been very low, and none of those are ‘in the work place’ transmissions…they were all outside the workplace.” How the heck would someone ever know for sure where they got infected, or if they didn’t already have it before they were supposedly infected?

Since Korea has like a few hundred cases per day in a country of tens of millions of people they can actually trace each each case back to a probable transmission event.

In the US, there is no knowing anything at all, unless you interacted with a known pozz person.

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I don’t know how true this is, but I’ve also heard that some kind of DNA-type testing can be done on the virus to link it between patients. Or maybe that was in a movie.

Yep, they can do that too, although in USA#1 we don’t trifle with such silliness.

In other news, the Thanksgiving dip appears illusory as many suspected. The numbers from just Tuesday thru Thursday were bad enough that we’re already hitting record 7DMA in cases. We desperately need a lockdown right now because this is really bad, and deteriorating rapidly.

ETA: A month or so ago someone asked for consensus about what the O/U line for 7DMA deaths would be on Christmas day. I voted 4,000, but the majority chose 3,000. I think I was incorrect given the information available at the time. 3,000 was the likelier number. However, I think now 3,000 would be a very optimistic guess. imo we will be very lucky if it’s that low.