My deplorable friend that think it’s just the flu most likely has it and also his wife. Loss of smell and taste. Kinda hope he gets some more severe symptoms but that’s probably wrong huh?
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That’s quite a lot to fit in 280 characters, at least he’s efficient with his words.
Yeah…loss of taste for a few years though…
Talked to a dude who does logistics stuff for one of the paper companies, Georgia Pacific, I think. According to him paper companies basically already ran 24/7, and had little room to increase production capacity before the pandemic. I’m curious if SK agrees?
This fool thinks it’s ok to be around other people will awaiting test results. And babysit, no less.
He had already tested positive, dumbass. I’m not a doctor here but it seems like a POSITIVE TEST FOR COVID might be, oh, I dunno, INDICATIVE OF COVID???
For fucks sake dude, this isn’t fucking complicated. If you’re symptomatic OR exposed and you’re awaiting test results you should definitely 100% be isolating. It’s not rocket science.
LMAO it’s OWNEDSgiving around here and churchill is doing allllllllll the receiving.
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Supposedly a big part of the problem in the spring was that there were two distinct supply chains. One for packages of 4 to 24 multi-ply rolls for household use sold through grocery stores, WalMart, etc and one for single-ply ass-grating, massive commercial sized rolls for distribution in bulk.
There was no way to quickly fix that. Given that demand was very inelastic, consumer-facing businesses were not designed to scale up.
I would imagine that is a bit different now.
Solve for gYm?
I’m like how bad could you really need to workout during a 1 day and 2 hour trip to the pittsburg area and then I realized he looked like that
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Solve for pozzY?
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At least can root for his smell/taste to be bad for a long time
That way no dangerous harm but he can see it’s more than the flu
wow this is a lot to unpack
“Could be as simple as: Corona virus is partly caused by cell phones, wifi, and not just 5G, but 4G and 3G. When 2G/3G started, I could feel it. In 2005, I got mysteriously short of breath. It was horrible. Apricot pits helped me recover. You could easily confuse that for corona.“
Those dumbbells aren’t going to curl themselves for an hour.
100% true. The paper industry is one of the most capital intensive industries on the planet, maybe steel and mining and aluminum are similar. So there’s no spare capacity sitting around. Every paper machine in the world runs 24 hours a day, 350 days a year. And the remaining days are for maintenance. So you can’t just start up a spare shift.
Some sectors are more boom or bust like paper for corrugated boxes or particularly fine paper. And there you might have more idled machines, waiting for market conditions to improve. But in my sector, food packaging, it’s much less cyclical. We also have some exposure to tissue and towel, since we make the brown paper that’s wound into the cores. And that business is totally steady except for accounts we lose or gain.
And I can’t imagine a paper product with a less cyclical business than TP. Demand is pretty inelastic no matter the economy. So takeaways are, yes, all paper mills already run 24/7 as standard operating procedure, just like other extremely capital intensive industries. The only way there might be spare capacity is if there are idled machines sitting around due to lack of business, but that’s usually only a thing for very cyclical sectors, and tissue is the exact opposite of that so I wouldn’t expect any idled machines sitting around.
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Update to CDC guidelines and my own situation:
The CDC is poised to revise the quarantine guidelines after known exposure from 14 days down to 7-10 days followed by a negative test. The negative test requirement is new. Per the WSJ.
This is different from the guidance for what to do if you test positive. That appears to be remaining the same - quarantine for 10 days since symptoms appear, provided that you’ve been fever free for 24 hours and other symptoms have been improving. This extends to 20 days for immuno compromised or severe cases.
The CDC does not recommend retesting for a negative result to return to normal activities.
Two reasons I’ve found to back this up:
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It’s possible to persistently test positive past the 10-20 day quarantine guidelines above, but no evidence of replication-competent virus has been found past this point. That is, that I’ve seen - looking through CDC and a few other sources.
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The false-negative rate for the PCR test is lowest on the 8th day since exposure (still, 25%!) and increase after that point. After 17 days from exposure, it’s a whopping 50% false negative rate. So testing yourself a couple weeks of exposure feels like theatre (unless you are submitting to multiple tests, and even still see point 1) above why this may be pointless anyways).
All that is to say, I’m heading back over my S.O.'s on Thanksgiving which will be 23 days since her symptom onset (and 9 days since her most recent pos test). Fingers crossed. For those with a medical background ITT who think this is a bad idea feel free to slap me on the wrist.
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My friend asked me to help him disprove some bullshit claim an anti vaxxer sent him. It’s this random person claiming they had an adverse reaction to a vaccine trial. There was a GoFundMe but it is no longer listed. I’m very confident this is fear porn/antivax propaganda, but can’t find any concrete evidence to disprove. Obviously the burden of proof should be on the one making or sharing this claim, but that concept is too difficult for people who would actually share this to understand. Can you help my friend out?
Spoiler for graphic content of a skin issue
So my 3% growth mode Predicted 1500-1600 deaths and 165k cases for today.
So it seems that is reasonably close. The peaks at 2000/200K make sense.
4000 per day by Xmas if things stay the same. We shall see what the net of the recent lockdowns and the holiday brings. I’d guess the same or an uptick. 4% growth from now to Xmas is an extra 125,000 cases. PER DAY.
If things doesn’t turn we will be looking at 7000+deaths per day about Jan 20. 10k is feasible.
Literally the number of deaths is likely to roughly double by mid Feb. 80-90% of those on Trump.
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You seem a lot more optimistic about the Turkey Pozzpalooza surge than I am. 4K/day by Christmas sounds like a reprieve compared to my guesses. That implies 200K cases/day after Thanksgiving. I guess we could fade the death surge til a few days after Christmas, which is probably actually a bad thing (if we have to have the surge, may as well get it in time to discourage another set of gatherings).
What is your feeling on our current little plateau? Real or are we bumping into testing capacity?
Did they express any remorse over voicing their displeasure with your decision, or admit you guys were right to be cautious?
I assume not, but I’m curious because if they don’t, it sounds like virtually nobody will absent deaths, given that they aren’t deniers.
That seems to be the sad reality for the American posters on this forum. I’ve noticed of late more posters pozzing or knowing people who have pozzed. Maybe dragged out of the current isn’t the right words for the forum members but it is approaching a point where it is so rife in wider society and so dismissed that it is going to be impossible to take enough precautions to keep chances of infection low!
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So here is kind of a snapshot of what we’re up to here in Washington, all from the front page of the Seattle Times…
Increasing numbers of hospitalizations for the new virus mean hospitals could have to delay treatment for cancer, and procedures like knee or hip replacements, Inslee said in a news conference.
“But they will also have to move into a critical-care situation where they simply cannot provide care for critically ill people whose life is threatened,” said Inslee. “And we’ll have to move to some degree to a triage situation to see who can get that care.”
But also:
Washington state officials are considering loosening guidelines to reopen schools
At least we’ll have football!!! YAY!
After Apple Cup canceled, UW Huskies will host Utah on Saturday night
Honestly this makes me feel physically ill. WTF!!!~!!!
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The sad reality for Americans is that we live in a dystopian system controlled by the wealthy, and we are currently getting no aid. Nearly half of all Americans were paycheck to paycheck before covid with no emergency savings (I think it was like 43%), and many more people exhausted them in the spring/summer.
As a result, everyone below the top 10% or so is being forced to act based on financial pressure. For probably 50-60% of people, at this point there is no option. Work and accept COVID risks or starve and become homeless.
For those of us lucky/blessed enough to be in, say, the 60-90th percentiles who are worried about COVID, it becomes a risk calculation based on how much you’ve got saved, when you think you are likely to be safely vaccinated, how much leeway you have to WFH, and how much risk your line of work/company/boss force you to take.
Keeping in mind that unemployment is high and there are no guarantees of getting a job back in 6 months, a lot of people probably feel that they have less option than it may appear on the surface.
Then add to the mix that like half of people think it’s no big deal, so it’s pretty out of control with no end in sight. It’s sad, it’s dystopian, and maybe the most frustrating part is that there seems to be very little political will in America to make the changes that would improve our situation going forward. Single payer remains a far off pipe dream, $15/hr is not on the horizon, income inequality is not being solved anytime soon, and like 40% of the country that would almost universally benefit from all of those policies goes stark raving mad at any proposal to fix them cause SOCIALISM!
It’s hard to continually face that reality from a mental perspective, especially for people like UPers who are smart enough to see the trajectory we’re on and understand that we’re only four years away from another risk of massively accelerating that trajectory. So even as someone fairly well off, there is a ton of pressure in my mind to keep accumulating wealth because I know the water is going to keep rising and I’m going to need a bigger boat.
Even once the pandemic is over, going back to normal just means living in a place where it’s considered blasphemous by most people to say we aren’t legitimately USA#1, but the reality is it’s one of the best places to live as a millionaire, and that’s about it.
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