I like you Nich, I like you Cuse.
Shit sucks real bad that Cuse has to even consider it. But reading posts can’t blame him for considering.
My advice for what it is worth, go there saying you might bow out any time, and just see if you feel comfortable
I’ll certainly listen to that tomorrow.
Yeah if anyone pulls a mask below their nose I’m going to politely say something like, “Hey, listen, I’m a guest here and I appreciate the invite, so I don’t want to come off like I’m trying to tell other people how to act, but I do have some health risks for COVID so if people are keeping their masks below their noses I’m going to have to politely excuse myself, no hard feelings.”
You might consider moving out of the US to somewhere with affordable healthcare - which is basically any other country in the world - when covid is over.
First a correction: 4.6 per million is not the lifetime incidence of TM, as I said, but the annual incidence. That wasn’t clear in the source I saw. 4.6 is the high-end estimate though, some estimates are as low as 1.1.
Using 4.6 per million, though, the probability of nobody getting TM out of 8,500 people in a year is over 96%. Of course I can’t then say “so the chances of this trial halt happening by chance were 4%” as that would be backfitting my hypothesis; someone could have acquired some condition other than TM that would halt the trial. However, the fact that the person with MS presented initially with TM should put us on the alert for future cases of TM.
TM is rare as the initial presentation of MS (0.7% in one study of 3500 people with MS), so this is still an unusual event. If it’s not clear, this person did not know they had MS prior to acquiring TM. Because TM is an inflammatory condition, there can be multiple contributing factors. For example if someone has liver inflammation and it turns out they have viral hepatitis, it’s not like “oh I guess the fact they drank 15 beers a day was irrelevant then”, both can be relevant. Only like 1 in 100,000 people per year are diagnosed with MS, so less than 1 in 1 million people per year will have a case of TM as a first presentation of MS. Of course it means nothing on its own, but then when someone else gets it as well and it’s such a rare condition, it starts to be suggestive. Nothing like definitive, but suggestive.
Honestly, this seems to be a feature of modern-day conspiracy movements: they have no idea what the hell the conspiracy actually is. Like, back in the day conspiracy dudes could lay out for you why the KGB/mafia wanted JFK assassinated, or how the US hired Kubrick to fake the moon landings so they could dunk on the Soviets. I at least get how that could work in theory. You don’t get that kind of coherency with conspiracy stuff these days. Seriously, just ask any conservative you know what exactly the Benghazi scandal was about, see if you can understand any of that.
This cuserounder drama is the most absurd late-stage capitalism shit ever. Oh, I gotta risk my health taking ducats from rich morons because we don’t have single-payer health care in America. idk what is the right call here, sending you all the feels.
Cuse I hope you don’t go but I completely understand where you’re coming from and if I were in your position I would probably end up going. Private games with millionaires could be a golden ticket.
It really is. Like I’m fine for now but I got a little tiny sampling of the boot on my throat, and I can see what’s coming down the tracks.
Thanks for all the feels, I appreciate it.
This shithead used to put out some funny stuff. Now he’s parroting the 6% nonsense and I KNOW he’s smart enough to know better.
But what really pisses me off is all the people in the comments complaining that they immediately got fact-checked when trying to share it on Facebook. Why is youtube not held to any standards? It’s just as social as Facebook for some people. They need to start shutting this thing down before the whole world collapses under conspiracy nonsense.
Bill Gates needs moniez.
I mean his story is just a version the situation 10s of millions of others are facing, including many on this board. It’s why you shouldn’t elect incompetent criminal game show hosts as president.
Yeah and to be clear, it’s not as bad as most people in similar situations. I have a couple of years of cushion in terms of food, shelter, etc… I’m just trying to avoid being in a situation where that’s ever in jeopardy, and to do so while I still have access to significant earning potential.
You’re getting out of way your depth in regards to the ms case. I’m not confident enough to say that you’re 100% wrong, but ms is a separate disease process that is not in any way applicable to your hepatitis comparison. The hepatitis example are two distinct punches to the liver; one alcohol and one viral. TM is a known complication of MS. People with MS already have autoimmune disorder, it wasn’t caused by the vaccine.
Let’s figure out if this was even tm first, then we can have people properly evaluate it instead of this frankly half baked analysis
MS is not well understood and is possibly several conditions lumped together under one heading, but it’s known to generally involve an immune response:
While the cause is unclear, the underlying mechanism is thought to be either destruction by the immune system or failure of the myelin-producing cells. Proposed causes for this include genetics and environmental factors being triggered by a viral infection.
In the most well known example of demyelinating disease, multiple sclerosis, evidence has shown that the body’s own immune system is at least partially responsible. Acquired immune system cells called T-cells are known to be present at the site of lesions. Other immune-system cells called macrophages (and possibly mast cells) also contribute to the damage.
Speculating that something designed to stimulate an immune response might contribute to the development of MS is not off the reservation at all.
I think I asked you this months ago and the answer was no but have you played the apps yet? They aren’t as soft as they were in April anymore but they are still light years softer than the other online poker options (bovada/global/acr). I am not very good and play micros like 15 hours a week for fun and have pretty consistently still been making $1000/mo. or so playing 40plo8 and .20/point ofc. I can not beat any of the normal sites at any level.
You can speculate all you want, evidence is sorely lacking and your comparison of two well known causes of hepatitis with ms and vaccination, which all people with ms still get and there’s no good evidence it poses some special risk to them, remains poor.
You can’t say that it’s likely the vaccine at this point. Hell we can’t even say for sure it’s TM. You can’t say well look at how rare this exact disease in this population and say gg, there’s a lot of rare things that can go wrong and pop up in a population sized like this.
It will be looked at, it will take time. Overanalyzing stuff is just going to drive you mad.
That is true that it’s safer this month and next than the following months.
Also, most of the vaccine candidates are mRNA, which would be the first of that type…I’m not feeling great getting it before there is time to see side effects, so at least next summer before that’s not a risk
