Yes we are the ones out of touch with perceived reality here. Perceived reality is that it’s normal time. Perceived reality is in for a rude awakening.
Yes. Just sit back and watch, they’re doing it themselves without even realizing it.
Tell them it’s to save cops, firefighters, and preachers obviously.
Time for a “Is it safe for a married person to be arguing online all day?” thread.
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hi Clovis, I’m in a similar situation with my older parents, except fortunately for them they are sheltered together and more or less doing emotionally ok. Here’s where I’ve been landing: if you’ve been legit conscientious (while in public, getting packages, etc) then it’s really not that risky. But “really not that risky” is unfortunately, at least for me, not enough, not when the less-than-1-outer aftermath is that I am walking around earth for the next fifty years knowing that I infected and maybe killed my parents. So that’s not happening.
What we do is try to plan our visits three weeks ahead, so that the two weeks leading up to it I have a no-joke lockdown where in short I turn my apartment into act three of E.T., where Elliott’s (hey his name begins with an E and ends with a T yall) whole house gets dressed up like a plague doctor or a beekeper or a latex fetishist on tuesdays with clovis, which is really chill my friend, I’m down for consenting adults trying everything twice, seems like you’ve built a good life! But yes I go two weeks to be extra safe, because I got it in my head that for 98% of folks the incubation period is no longer than 12 days (median ~five days), and then adding in the overall uncertainty about asymptomatic carriers, I choose two weeks but it’s obviously not an exact science.
Then after two weeks I go hang out with them for a long weekend, then I go to my sister’s and hang out with my nieces, then it’s back home to the city, then I make a few massive grocery runs the next week, hang out with friends/partners/whatever (e.g. last week I went to my haircutting person’s apartment and got my damn hair cut, a motherfucking scandal I know), then schedule the next visit with my folks, and reset the clock.
(Note this is easier for my family because I live in SF and they live in Berkeley…meaning they can pick me up and there’s no extra exposure associated with my going there)
Man! Your mom’s going to be head over heels happy to see you, and I def agree with LFS that you should schedule a visit as soon as the risk/reward stuff works for you. One of the bummers of this whole thing is that regardless of testing/contact tracing this really might be the way life is for our elderly family and friends for a long time. Maybe if better treatments are found then that will tip the teetertotter enough, but as things stand I can’t imagine that the risk/reward is gonna be worth it for my dad to return to anything close to normal. Whoa this totally sucks!! And more broadly, it’s hard not to imagine a 2020-2021 where it starts really paying off to be a star-bellied sneetch, i.e. being an immune will not only sound dystopian and sinister but will also be potentially super useful! The incentives boggle the mind. Lastly, the idea that we’re going to have an election in November is still…I mean it’ll probably happen but can you imagine it? like can you imagine what September and October are going to feel like? I can’t. And what can we say? Welcome to the world that we deserve. We knew it was coming! But now that it’s here? Feels bad man
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Don’t think I saw this discussed here, but Cal State University system announced today that most classes will be virtual for the Fall and no NCAA fall sports.
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ROFL
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Have you seen the NHK videos with loud talking?
You analysis I assume on volume and velocity and does not have a shedding factor. Probably either adjust the rate and speed of exhaling to compensate or just add in a shedding fudge factor. There is also an inhalation term (in=out roughly).
I worry that people will decide to sit 6 feet apart and then shout all day. That’s even bad outside as the direction is aimed right at the other persons face. I’d do it but only in a crosswind.
William Schaffner explains that the virus is primarily risky to us when it attaches to surfaces in our respiratory tract, not when we accidentally eat it. “The virus seems to be latching onto cells in the upper reaches of the nose, a place food doesn’t enter,” he explains. “Virus that found its way into your gastrointestinal tract would be killed by the acid in your stomach.”
Several infectious disease experts whom NPR spoke to concurred that research hasn’t turned up any evidence of COVID-19 spreading through food.
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Trump supporter friend reacted to my reading a Council of Economic Advisers tweet about their cubic modeling to her by saying she didn’t believe it. “It doesn’t make sense that the government would have economists do that. That’s a fake account!” I explained about blue check marks and she came back with “It’s social media. You can’t trust it!”
Same person was telling me about how suspicious it was that planes were flying out of Wuhan when flights were supposed to be suspended. Or something. IDK where she got that “news.”
Btw, if anyone can give me give me cliffs on the Wuhan airplane conspiracy, thanks in advance.
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I get really confused when I try to think about the whole mask lying thing.
The behavior of hoarding Medical grade PPE in this country was seriously putting hospital workers at risk.
I also do think they were caught off guard by the whole pre and asymptomatic spreaders.
But probably a lot less spread if people just wore even crappy masks starting about March 1. Of course the Cheeto in charge was less than useless, actually harmful.
Something that will be debated for a long time.
So, hypothetically speaking, if a shipping and logistics bro were to start a company that helped rich jerks get out of a high tax jurisdiction and into a lower tax one, is that human trafficking?
https://twitter.com/TheStalwart/status/1260273545453731841?s=19
You’ll notice I’ve been trying to duck in and out and stay out of controversy certain times of day. I’ll make a small plea that this is a pretty hair splitting pissing contest that’s on day 2. Discussing takeout food etc is fine, the rest needs a containment thread.
My main job is not be a flaming asshole late afternoon through bedtime.
I’ll just say to everyone here
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I think the move was to tell the truth and suggest the homemade ones and say it everyone wears them we’re all 90% safer, let the medical workers get the N95 which is 95%. I think that would have worked.
Of course they could have started stocking up way earlier.
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Just put your hand in the garbage disposal and flip the switch. Just as much pain but a whole lot less time and hassle than beating your fist into a brick wall repeatedly after learning what any of these conspiracies are about.
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That’s the part of the pandemic playbook I’m upset about. There should have been public education or at least training down to the county level mandatory.
A $30 box of some basic supplies plus a city/county/states stash for the poorer Folks would go a long way. Masks, gloves, wipes, sanitizer.
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Says you.
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Yup, and it’s bullshit this doesn’t get called out more. I was screaming to everyone I knew how insane it was they were saying masks are more dangerous. Getting people in New York City wearing masks would have helped more than getting them ventilators.
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