JT has actually argued IIRC that the vaccine doesn’t provide meaningful protection against delta and omicron, but I’m not 100% on that. I don’t care though. Productive conversation isn’t the goal right now.
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JT your inability to have your citations support what you say is pathological.
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Did you read it at all?
I must emphasize that vaccinated people are several times less likely to be infected by Delta than unvaccinated people.
Anyways, this isn’t a discussion. Vaccines provide protection against infection and therefore transmission. No one has said that vaccinated people can’t spread the virus. The continuation of this from you is dishonest bullshit.
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I have, you’re mad about churchill. It’s sad honestly. Bye.
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I wouldn’t rule that statement false by any stretch.
Where’s that thread that was created not long ago where posters could scratch whatever itch they have with each other without constantly clogging this thread up with their bs. 4 or 5 people yet again making this thread unreadable. ffs.
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Make it a discord and sent out invites.
Citations needed. We can start with the writer for SA basically saying the opposite, as pointed out by CN.
I must emphasize that vaccinated people are several times less likely to be infected by Delta than unvaccinated people.
One of those is misquoted, one has proven false, one is semantics, and the last is about waning not escape. But nice tries.
(This was in response to a one word post calling me a liar that has since been edited.)
I’m not the one pushing misinformation. I would prefer if you stopped that, but I wouldn’t dream of asking you to stop.
Too bad that’s not a policy.
The vaccinated don’t spread covid similarly to the unvaccinated once infected. The viral load is not as high for as long. There were studies and data.
You should know this, you spent weeks arguing about that stuff back then iirc.
But instead you’re pushing that misinformation.
This needs a containment thread.
It has one he’s just not using it.
Can you post a link to a study?
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Surely you have some data to back that up. No?
Just received my free rapid tests in the mail. Shout out to Jen Psaki for making it happen, and keeping my fingers crossed that I don’t have to use 'em.
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This isn’t even the one I was referencing, so there’s another one floating around. The other one showed something like a two day shorter infectious period.
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Another 415,000 missing from ‘totsal cases’ in England, let alone the UK (no requirement to have LFT pozz confirmed by LFT in UK)
Schools that ended the requirement for pupils to wear face coverings this month, in line with government guidance, are reinstating it again because of surges in Covid cases.
The government rescinded the requirement for masks in secondary school classrooms in England on 20 January and since 27 January they have no longer been compulsory in communal indoor spaces either. But a number of schools that complied with the change in the rules are having to reintroduce them a week later because of outbreaks in infections.
A total of 415,000 children – just over 5% of the state school intake – were absent on 20 January, up from 3.9% on 6 January. More than three-quarters of absent pupils had tested positive for Covid.
At nearly a quarter of state schools, more than 15% of teachers and leaders were off work. In total, 9% of heads and teachers – 47,000 – were absent on 20 January, up from 44,000 two weeks previously. A similar proportion of teaching assistants and other staff were also out of school.
I think the vaccinated/boosted are:
Not as easily infected
Less likely to stay infectious as long
Less likely to hit as high of a viral load
relative to the unvaccinated. Timing of boosters and most recent shot seems to matter a lot.
@moderators In my opinion this whole derail should be excised to the containment thread for Johnny’s asymptomatic spread arguments.
Tough to say exactly, but it seems to start around here:
https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-chapter-10-we-give-up/7131/2164?u=commonwealth