COVID-19: Chapter 10 - Mission Achomlished!

[Jalfrezi]

@Churchill

The puzzle of America’s record Covid hospital rate

More now on President Biden’s announcement to deploy military teams to states hit hard by Covid - we’ve been examining why the Omicron variant has led to the US having a record number of patients with the virus in its hospitals.

In many other countries, public health officials have noted the figure remains significantly lower than during previous pandemic surges.

So why is the US different?

• Dr Juan Reyes, director of hospital medicine at George Washington University in Washington DC, told us: “The difference now is a lot of fatigue, on healthcare workers and the population at large”
• Dr Lewis Rubinson, the chief medical officer of Morristown Medical Center in New Jersey, believes it could be due to increased testing of everyone who comes into the hospital for any reason
• Professor David Larsen, an epidemiologist and global health expert says an “older population” and “a less healthy population than in Europe” could also be a factor
• Doctors also warn the high level of hospital admissions in the US and Canada may be due to the Delta variant being more prevalent in many areas.

The puzzle of America's record Covid hospital rate - BBC News

I was about to post this and got the alert that it had already been posted.

What do you think the explanation is?

[ElSapo]

slow pony, most likely

[j8i3h289dn3x7]

@Jalfrezi

I was about to post this and got the alert that it had already been posted.

What do you think the explanation is?

@ElSapo

slow pony, most likely

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@ElSapo

slow pony, most likely

Thanks for the literal lol.

[DrChesspain]

Which previously banned poster are you?

[mosdef]

All of them.

[j8i3h289dn3x7]

Welcome to the community @Raskolnikov!

[Churchill]

@Churchill

Dr Juan Reyes, director of hospital medicine at George Washington University in Washington DC, told us: “The difference now is a lot of fatigue, on healthcare workers and the population at large”

I highly doubt covid fatigue applies to USA’ers only

@Churchill

• Dr Lewis Rubinson, the chief medical officer of Morristown Medical Center in New Jersey, believes it could be due to increased testing of everyone who comes into the hospital for any reason

Wut? Lol if all patients weren’t being tested in earlier waves - must have had lots of spread in USA hospitals. Our World in Data indicates the US had no stats for ‘no. of covid patients in hospitals’ pre July 2020! This doesn’t explain why the USA rate vs other countries is higher this wave.

@Churchill

• Professor David Larsen, an epidemiologist and global health expert says an “older population” and “a less healthy population than in Europe” could also be a factor

Less healthy population may have some legs but does the US have an older population than ‘Europe’ - maybe when eastern EU countries are added into the mix but probably not those countries in the graph.

Always hard to compare countries. Harder to compare a country to a continent.

I’d go for: -
No vaccine mixing - Only MRNA vaccines in US and Canada - ok, some J&J (US) but small by comparison
Higher vaccine waning and Slow booster rollout - Less of the population tripled vaxxed when Omicron arrived - despite the advance warning and countries with better survellance altering their booster schedules, some as low as 3 months i.e. 3-4 week gap between 1st & 2nd doses (US) then 5-6month wait for booster - must be super low protection against severe infection 4 months after 2nd dose
Lower vaxxed population in general (US)
US Covid data less reliable overall

Just goes to show that it’s relatively pointless western countries going by South African stats when trying to predict their Omicron outcomes. And, to a lesser extent, US looking at UK numbers and predicting similar outcomes i.e. still no vax in the UK for under 12’s. 12-16yrs recently eligible for second dose so none of those boostered - may lead you to think the patients per capita should be higher in the UK.

Why do you think the US is experiencing a more severe Omicron wave than other countries?

[Danspartan]

@MrWookie

we could potentially do shorter and more targeted lockdowns, which might be more palatable.

I’d still love to see what two weeks of lockdown can do to knock that damn thing down. I worry omicron would just roar back quickly.

[mosdef]

@Danspartan

I worry omicron would just roar back quickly.

LOCKDOWNS DON’T EVEN WORK!

[Huehuecoyotl]

Mom pozzed again. Second time after having covid once, getting double vax and boosted. My parents have some bad luck.

[CanadaMatt3004]

What an absolute cretin

[eyebooger]

Got a negative result from my first ever COVID test. No symptoms or anything, just a requirement for my surgery later today.

[Tilted]

Good luck with the surgery!

[StrontiumDog]

@CanadaMatt3004

cretin

Such a great word

[mosdef]

We have a certain prickly poster here once in a while who uses the same strategy for “learning” things. It’s a real perversion of the scientific method to go Hypothesis → Test/Research → Contradiction of hypothesis → Well the test/research must be wrong, someone has to give me more different research forever until the hypothesis is proven.

[Jalfrezi]

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[Jalfrezi]

More UK infants in hospital amid Omicron wave but experts urge calm

[MrWookie]

Maybe? That the test positivity is sky high and still climbing isn’t all reassuring that things are getting that much better.

[Danspartan]

Only if the vaxxed rate is roughly 8 fold the unvaxxed (ie about 88% vaxxed). And obviously who the fuck cares.

Nice to have Joe have his hat handed to him live. “But can we trust these numbers”. Obviously better than the numbers you make up in your head, fuck face.