COVID-19: Chapter 10 - Mission Achomlished!

Went to the doctor and later to get an MRI this week and I didn’t see a single other person with a mask on. My doctor’s office had a mask policy but I think they ended it. Or at least they are not enforcing it.

Interesting. Here all medical locations still strictly enforce masking.

I think lots of local governments are removing their requirements, but as of the last time I checked CDC still recommends it.

There was a study (Jan '23) that found masks may have made little difference, even the N95 - seems to tie in with the original WHO advice stopping that amazon run on masks that deprived the needy

Isn’t that the same one where the authors openly point out severe limitations like hospital staff not wearing masks in public after hours and stuff like that.

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I doubt many of the hospital staff slept in masks - all things equal, you’d ‘imagine’ the hosital would be the riskier environment and the study covered that - best you’ll get unless you know hospital staff that didn’t remove masks during enitre pandemic - then it would be small sample size i guess

Science doesn’t imagine data. Well maybe back in the days of “ethers”
And “humors”.

Oh cool the meta analysis run by the anti mask guy that cochrane apologized for already? That study blows.

I’ve been exposed to more Covid than everyone in this thread combined. I’ve never had Covid yet. Masks work. Gtfooh with this nonsense

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The first thing the link you posted says is

Key messages
We are uncertain whether wearing masks or N95/P2 respirators helps to slow the spread of respiratory viruses based on the studies we assessed.

You continue to lie in this thread. The scientists themselves even added a caveat at the end

What are the limitations of the evidence?
Our confidence in these results is generally low to moderate for the subjective outcomes related to respiratory illness, but moderate for the more precisely defined laboratory-confirmed respiratory virus infection, related to masks and N95/P2 respirators. The results might change when further evidence becomes available. Relatively low numbers of people followed the guidance about wearing masks or about hand hygiene, which may have affected the results of the studies.

Misrepresenting a study once or twice is a mistake but doing it as consistently as you manage to has to be intentional.

Honestly I’m proud of churchill for not posting the Nurse Dr John Campbell’s video from today about masking not working in hospitals

This is like really trippy masochism; it’s been bizarre but sometimes captivating to observe sporadically and from a distance for a few years. Thanks, I guess?

We assessed the effects of:

· medical or surgical masks;

· N95/P2 respirators (close-fitting masks that filter the air breathed in, more commonly used by healthcare workers than the general public); and

· hand hygiene (hand-washing and using hand sanitiser).

We obtained the following results:

Medical or surgical masks

Ten studies took place in the community, and two studies in healthcare workers. Compared with wearing no mask in the community studies only, wearing a mask may make little to no difference in how many people caught a flu-like illness/COVID-like illness (9 studies; 276,917 people); and probably makes little or no difference in how many people have flu/COVID confirmed by a laboratory test (6 studies; 13,919 people). Unwanted effects were rarely reported; discomfort was mentioned.

N95/P2 respirators

Four studies were in healthcare workers, and one small study was in the community. Compared with wearing medical or surgical masks, wearing N95/P2 respirators probably makes little to no difference in how many people have confirmed flu (5 studies; 8407 people); and may make little to no difference in how many people catch a flu-like illness (5 studies; 8407 people), or respiratory illness (3 studies; 7799 people). Unwanted effects were not well-reported; discomfort was mentioned.

The words “may” and “probably” are doing a lot of work. Someone paid for this study and dammit we have to make some kind of conclusion.

Yeah, when Mayo said lolno I figured any hospital/medical office worth a damn would follow suit.

Does CDC still recommend social isolation?

Not sure haven’t checked on that recently.

I know they’re still opposed to alcohol.

Because of course.

Wait. I was assured ITT that Desantis et al would never make-up/lie/hide Covid related data.

https://twitter.com/jreinermd/status/1644709813429870597?s=46&t=dvV9TUmgV2G2w-Mgn0SWKQ

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Why do you think Dr. Dingus?