Seems like much ado about nothing and also more easy to correct than have a back and forth.
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It was corrected quickly. Thanks for making it worse with your back and forth!
This is true and Iām sorry and sorry that Iām going to make it worse. Iām not mad and hope no one else is and I think this is just chatting.
Like I said before I donāt see churchill being abrasive here. Maybe smart-alecky.
I think this was the first abrasive post in the exchange. It was mild. Not that big a deal or anything. Should not be moderated. But, itās the first post that strikes me as abrasive.
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So Iāve had three shots of Pfizer, and now some natural immunity lol. There are some specific situations Iāve been avoiding due to fear of getting COVID - main one being getting back to service work at the LA County Jail. Should/can I be less worried now that Iāve had it, or is my risk basically the same?
Also, should this change my plans to get a fourth shot? Weāre traveling to Italy mid-July, so I was going to get the fourth shot mid-June. Does getting the fourth shot a few weeks after recovering from COVID make any sense?
Itās a crappy decision to have to make. The more experience your system has with COVID, the better itās going to handle the virus and closely-related strains. obv that doesnāt mean youāre bulletproof. OTOH, Iām guessing prisons are high-risk places and the people who run them give zero fucks about their inmates getting infected. On the other other hand, I imagine the work youāre doing there is important.
Does that mean people who have been infected by previous variants should act as if they might have more than substantially no protection from BA.4 and BA.5 conferred by aforementioned infections.
My rheumatologist told me in March that hybrid immunity of vaccine plus breakthrough infection seems to provide very good immunity and he was holding off on recommending booster shots to anyone whoās had a breakthrough infection. Talk to your own doctor but Iām sure he wouldnāt have recommended the second booster to me if I came in with your same situation.
CDC doesnāt have a hard stance. Current guidelines say you can wait up to three months after initial infection because reinfection in that time period is quite rare and thereās possibly a better response with waiting
Which goes against cdc, and every major organizations, recommendations!
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How long after getting pozzed do I have to wait to get a 2nd booster? Iām just gonna say whatever lies I need to in order to get these every 6 months from here on out
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But despite the name, thatās not how āimmunityā works, and thatās not how people who study immunology talk about vaccine effectiveness.
If anyone wants to get the cliffs of this paper, itās measuring antibody neutralization, not clinical outcomes. Antibody neutralization is relevant data, but itās not as robust a measurement as directly measuring the percentage of people in the various populations of unvaxxed/vaxxed/boosted/boosted+prior infection/unvaxxed but infected/etc. face new infection/hospitalization/death. The lessened degree of antibody neutralization for BA.4 and BA.5 vs. BA.1, while statistically significant, was quite a bit smaller than BA.1 vs. delta and earlier strains (2-3 fold reduction vs. a 10+ fold reduction in antibody neutralization), so itās very unlikely that BA.4 or BA.5 is going to be able to cause a wave as big as BA.1 did when we were still calling it omicron this past fall and winter.
Itās also definitely wrong to say that there is āno immunity inferred [sic]ā from BA.1 infection. Sera from individuals who are vaccinated and caught BA.1 showed better antibody neutralization than sera from individuals who were vaccinated but who hadnāt caught BA.1.
100% to this. NorCal has crazy amounts of flu right now. Testing rates, and this includes tests we send for people we think have covid, are like 13-15%. Itās bad.
But he said he now understands that isnāt the only way the pandemic may influence infectious diseases.
āWeāre very focused on under-vaccinated children with routine childhood immunizations because itās the set-up for introduction of measles. But then there have also been a lot of kids who havenāt gotten the usual kind of viruses they might have been exposed to.ā
Oh fuck me hard, we donāt need measles making a comeback, that is not okay at all.
You (or anyone else) think thereās any chance we get rapid at home tests for flu like we have for covid? Iām pessimistic, but my parents think itāll happen.
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Hadnāt even thought about it tbh. Would make sense but I havenāt heard of anything about developing it.
FDA tho
Itās gonna take large amounts of measles et al to change hearts and minds-if they can understand it was their own stupidity that got their kid sick. I-F.
Maybe? Probably? Iāve always worked at places with rapid PCR