COVID-19 (2): Turns out it's going to be pretty bad actually

Damn like in my experience the vast majority of small business owners spend huge amounts of time thinking about how they can stop people from receiving unemployment. You’d hope they’d act differently during a pandemic, but I doubt it.

Musk could start by re-opening his truck’s windows with a firm tap on the glass.

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Wonderful. That de Blasio tweet has got the right-wingers going nuts with their fake concern for Jews.

Assuming this is cumulative cases since the beginning, I wonder if there’s any way to look at current active cases.

I guess you could just WAG it and drop any cases that originated more than 3 weeks in the past.

According to this press release the study was blinded and placebo controlled?

The study compared remdesivir to placebo in 800 patients, with neither patients nor physicians knowing who got the drug instead of a placebo, meaning that unconscious biases will not affect the conclusions.

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Two different studies. You’re talking about the NIAID one, the results of which are currently unknown (but which Gilead hinted at). The one WichitaDM was referring to was an in-house study conducted by Gilead itself.

Edit: it now seems that Fauci has also commented on the NIAID study.

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The key piece of data is that:

“Patients in the trial generally lived, though this may be because their illness was not that severe to begin with. For most of the study, patients already on ventilators were not enrolled.”

8-11% of mostly non-severe cases dying seems pretty terrible to be honest and in line with what we already see with non-Remisdivir confirmed cases. Which makes the next part makes total sense:

“There was a 23% improvement in time to clinical improvement for remdesivir compared to placebo, but the difference was not statistically significant. At the median, remdesivir-treated patients improved in 20 days compared to 23 days for placebo patients. At one month, 14% of the remdesivir patients had died compared to 13% of the placebo-treated patients.”

So basically this was once again a stock pump considering this study everyone is touting had the same results as the China study. Which is that there is no statistically significant impact of taking Remisdivir.

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Fauci just said it was a very high quality study, randomized, placebo controlled, international study with a clear cut positive significant effect in diminishing time to recovery. There was a moral obligation to stop the study so that the placebo group knew they were the placebo group and doctors could give them remdesivir.

Fauci said it’ll be the new “standard of treatment.” He also said the mortality rate “trended lower.”

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That’s false and Fauci being a fraud continues to be on full display. See my post above.

Aren’t you citing numbers from Gilead’s own study? Fauci is talking about the NIAID study.

My quotes from above are the NIAID study. There wasn’t a statistically significant difference in results from the control to the people who took Remisdivir. The NIAID study actually confirms the leaked China study.

Fauci said difference in mortality not statistically significant but difference in time to recovery was. He even gave a p-value. Haven’t read the underlying study.

Update from Cuomo presser

Daily confirmed COVID hospital and nursing home deaths since peak
April 8: 799
April 9: 777
April 10: 783
April 11: 758
April 12: 671
April 13: 778
April 14: 758
April 15: 606
April 16: 630
April 17: 540
April 18: 507
April 19: 478
April 20: 481
April 21: 474
April 22: 438
April 23: 422
April 24: 437
April 25: 367
April 26: 337
April 27: 335
April 28: 330

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If he said that he is wrong. Unless the quote from the study in that article is wrong. They found no statistically significant impact at all.

I agree with this. I think people would be surprised at the amount of energy business owners invest in this in normal times.

I don’t think most of you understand how much play these two dipshits are getting out there in the “still somewhat reasonable, but also think the virus is overblown” sphere.

I’ve unfollowed all the hardcore deplorables and conspiracy idiots a long time ago. But this thing keeps popping up from posters who almost never post politics. Also it seems popular in all Mexico and Central America expat groups I follow.

I genuinely think you’re conflating the two studies. Although slightly unclear this quote you cited:

“Patients in the trial generally lived, though this may be because their illness was not that severe to begin with. For most of the study, patients already on ventilators were not enrolled.”

seems to be referencing the in-house Gilead study.

Fingers crossed remdesivir is an effective treatment therapy for the virus. Would make a huge difference.

We all want this to be over and are grasping at anything which makes the reality not what we know it is. It’s why half the forum is buying nicotine patches and Pepcid. It’s why the Remisdivir study that actually confirms it doesn’t affect mortality rates is being hyped as a miracle cure.

Human beings are not well equipped to handle stuff like this and so literally every single thing that makes any sense that is an easy solution to this is being grasped on to by normally sane people.

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