COVID-19 (2): Turns out it's going to be pretty bad actually

Such a weird takeaway.

Not sure what culture these beta cucks grew up in but in mine masks have always represented being bad ass.

Of course this is the same reason trump doesn’t wear a mask. He thinks it makes him look weak but not wearing one just makes him look like a coward.

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If we reopen the fed only has to make it rain on billionaires and the plebes get nothing, even though unemployment will still be at 30% or whatever. I really think it’s that simple. These astroturfed donks are just providing cover

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What’s this I’m seeing in the derposphere last 24 hours about the CDC revising COVID deaths downward to under 40K? I assume this is some FNC-inspired mangling of the real story?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/briannasacks/coronavirus-death-toll-cdc-misinformation

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As for that Maine restaurant opening:

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This looks to be correct per the JHU map. Other hotspots on a per capita basis that aren’t getting a ton of press are some Black Belt counties in Mississippi (for obvious reasons), and some stuff around the Four Corners, which I assume is probably due to Native Americans we’ve left to fend for themselves.

Being a doctor in Russia doesn’t seem like an enviable position. Not only are they on the wrong side of the curve in regards to the pandemic, now they have to worry about learning to fly unassisted if they speak up about insufficient supplies.

You know tRUmp is salivating at the idea of being able to order these things to happen.

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https://twitter.com/mcuban/status/1256947713649840130?s=20

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this is a self own right? ya mark cuban, billionaire owner of a professional sports franchise and famous shark tank panelist, please enlighten your millions of followers with your theory on why American politics are so dysfunctional?

https://mobile.twitter.com/CPDizzle/status/1256948500387905537

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Pretty sure at least one of the Russian doctors was a legitimate suicide. At least a good cover story of jumping after she learned of being assigned to a COVID ward.

I really really want to know the exact mechanics of how this is happening. Obviously Putin is doing it, or has instructed local officials to do it. And obviously it’s to kill the trouble-making doctors in a very obvious way to send a message. Maybe @pyatnitski can shed some light here?

But on top of that - do goons (Putin-level? Local?) just show up in suits and then someone gets thrown out the window? Are they to the level where they can do it in front of witnesses like the mob and still no one says anything? If say some brave witness did speak out - would there even be an investigation - even if a sham? Would any media left in Russia report it?

Man I want to know the answers to how this actually works - mainly to look out for the first signs it could start happening here. I guess in Russia the KGB was always able to do that going back as long as anyone remembers - so they already broke that barrier a long time ago.

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Of course. They’ve been doing this kind of thing for ages.

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Come on man. No fucking way. The instant a second doctor plummeted out of their building the minute they spoke up, the odds of the first being legit suicide dropped to basically zero. This has to be sending a message, in the most obvious way possible, to shut the F up and grind through it.

I think also it’s Putin messing with Trump - saying ha ha look what I can do - I bet you wish you had this kind of power!

You actually believe this?

A doctor with access to all manner of drugs that would make the act of taking one’s own life less, shall we say, dramatic instead chooses to hurl themselves out a window leaving a mangled corpse and all but assure a closed casket funeral, not to mention the trauma inflicted on those they left behind?

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I don’t know. Pretending that the government isn’t horribly complicit in everything wrong in our society absolutely including wealth inequality is a little silly. American politics are super dysfunctional because people are stupid and easy to manipulate.

Society has no idea how to deal with the technologies that we’ve come up with in the last 50 years. Modern advertising, the internet, instant communications, etc. It’s made propaganda and misinformation tools of such scale and power that our system is literally collapsing before our eyes.

I actually largely agree with Cuban here. And I’m hardly the only one. That’s an article from slate, who are pretty fucking liberal. I’m sure I disagree with Cuban about why that is, but I can’t disagree with the assessment that we have a government that serves oligarchs quite well and generally oppresses everyone who isn’t in the top 20% at least.

The reality is that several of the things Trump constantly harped on in the 2016 election were basically correct. There really is an elite class of people in this country, largely gated by elite academic institutions and old money, who are screwing the rest of us… and our trade with China was a huge mistake that has cost the country dearly and done a tremendous amount of damage. He found the right mixture of populist bullshit to spew to be very very appealing to a group of people who live in a state of constant corporate propaganda bombardment who can no longer tell what’s real and what isn’t. Good propaganda has a core of truth that you scaffold your lies onto. Trumps truth was that the system is wildly unfair. Yes even to white people.

We have to do something about the legality of misinformation as a society or things are just going to keep getting worse. One thing I’m increasingly certain of is that truly free speech has to go. I know all the drawbacks having some level of censorship will bring, but just being able to tell lies with no consequences and call yourself news is causing even bigger issues… as is the ability to megaphone straight no chaser propaganda on the internet.

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Yes but occasionally in Russia people do speak up about things - with bad consequences but it happens. That’s what I want to know. What happens if a witness does come forward?

And don’t give me a vague answer like it gets swept under the rug. Sure, obviously. But is there a sham investigation at least? Is it still possible to at least get some media to report? Those are the details I’m curious about.

In the US if we ever get to the point of killing people in public that obviously (Epstein could be a trial balloon) - we’re still going to be going through the motions of investigations and trials and tons of media about it - for a long long time.

IE - we aren’t just going to skip straight from where we’re at now to Russian level. It will be important to keep the sham of an impartial justice system and a media that does their jobs going for a long long time. I’m curious what semblance, if any, of that is left in Russia - from their halcyon perestroika days - and even from before in the Soviet days when I assume local murders still had to be at least sham investigated, and paperwork filled out, even if everyone knew the KGB did it.

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Tuesday is the 50th anniversary of the May 2, 1967 “invasion” of the state Capitol by two dozen gun-toting Black Panthers. Carrying rifles, pistols and shotguns, and wearing dark glasses, leather jackets and berets, they marched up the front steps and into the Capitol to demonstrate their opposition to an anti-gun bill by Oakland Republican Don Mulford (1915-2000).

Reagan quickly signed the bill. He was quoted as saying “There’s no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons.”

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Saudi Arabia’s stock market is crashing as they have had Covid cases soar in the last couple weeks. Seems like a strike against the argument that heat and sunshine will be some major deterrent.