Every single member of this forum knows how Clovis will react to certain posts and situations. Nothing here was unexpected or a surprise. Everyone knew exactly what would happen, but its fun to feign surprise afterwards I guess.
Like, itâs totally fucking rad that you donât think parents should force their little trans teen daughters to suicide through religious conversion therapy anymore (hell, iâm not even sure about this one but you can have a freebie) and now want to make amends with and be accepted by the people who couldnât stand you before, but maybe, maybe, considering thatâs true, simmer all the way the fuck down about who has issues over who is caring about what and which and why and if theyâre liked or not liked and etc etc.
IDK, I donât know the details of the story, but if, hypothetically, 70% of the forum were inclined to vote for a bad mod, then I guess we would have to suffer under bad moderation. Thatâs also the way governance works in the real world.
I knew goofballer would scour my posts to try to find something objectionable. I left the meanest thing I wrote up to see how long it would take for him to find it. Took him like a half hour.
Most of the posters here do not interact with the mods nor need too, itâs so weird to have a years long debate over the importance of them on an individual level when if youâre in a place you enjoy and want to see succeed, they should have very, very little effect on your experience.
Iâve stated my pessimism about all the plans here, but also I donât know how to answer this. In my ideal situation watever works to not have watevs banned would be deemed as success, because subjectively I feel like heâs not a problem and objectively I could argue heâs not.
I might win the argument but that might be only due to arguing good and not on watevsâ objective value.
Thatâs totally fine if you see it as a mutual obligation. Iâd agree. I think the problem arises when people donât. Like, I wouldnât care if he got banned, unless it personally affected his mental well-being for some reason, which I doubt, but for the sake of this example letâs assume I do. Youâre saying your forum experience is being ruined by him posting (and I donât know if this would be totally accurate but again, just using it for the example) and Iâm saying my forum experience would be ruined by him being banned. I think thatâs a fine crossroads to arrive at and could be handled easily and amicably. The problem is that some people wouldnât even see my stance as even being possible. Like, they wouldnât grasp theyâre at that crossroads. That why I referenced theory-of-mind and the sally-anne-test again.
This is what happened. I saw keed spamming the forum, around inauguration day, in the email logs. I never read any of those messages and donât care what they contained. It struck me as suspicious but I didnât meddle.
For the record, I have never read anyoneâs pmâs except for a thread between JT and microbet a few months ago, which I clicked on genuine accident, which I have alluded to in another post, which was discussed here. I opened this thread today because I saw keed wanted to raise the PM limit, which is in place because it prevents malicious users from spamming the forum with phishing links. I saw the thread was nearly 1300 posts long, and decided fuck it, Iâll open it. Got about 40 posts in and already saw posts about my mental health, clicked âmake publicâ, and decided to let the chips fall where they may.
If anyone doesnât believe that - I can gladly show you the admin logs. ggoreo can validate or show them himself if he feels like it but Iâve already put that poor dude through enough so donât fucking dare pester him.
At this point I am so disgusted and disappointed in this community, and I feel I owe you nothing. I am genuinely sorry if I have disappointed you. It was not my intention, but people react certain ways when pushed to a point, and I reached that point a little while ago.
You sent over 20 messages to unique users in the span of a little over 24 hours, during the time the whole mod thing was happening with you. I only know because I got a fucking alert about it. It struck me as suspicious, but only you know what those messages contained and the people you sent them to. Judging from what little Iâve read here, I can just make some assumptions. I donât think your intentions here are good, I think youâre trouble, and politely, you should fuck off and go to your own site.