I had an ex who when she knew she was wrong on something would purposely needle me until she got me to yell. She knew all the exact buttons to push. Then the entire issue turned into me yelling at her and now she was completely off the hook for whatever she pulled that started the argument.
This is a lot like that except obviously you didn’t deliberately make jmakin do what he did. Yes jmakin shouldn’t have read or published that. But the original transgression still happened.
One thing I’ve learned in the corporate world is never ever put something in writing you don’t want the whole world to see. Way too many times someone forwards an email chain not realizing some embarrassing shit is buried in there.
Some people are really coming at this at weird angles because they need one “side” or certain people to be “good” vs the wrong/evil other side. Has absolutely twisted some people in knots.
About 15% from people telling me they actually like Pete Buttigieg/talking about the debates/primary/Iowa/election. I refuse to post those because I’m perfectly fine taking all of the shit from everyone else here about Pete and don’t really want them to have to deal with it.
About 10% asking about my well-being during and after the c-word debacle.
A few from some of the OPs of this “council of Captains” thing, very civil and no disagreements, not related to this and sent over the life of the board (some of them months ago).
Some random questions about non-forum things like our diesel van, where to find a Spanish grocery store in SD, and other various and sundry things.
Finally, a few from people being jokesters and sending me a Dick pic.
I can’t post a pic because there are a lot, it won’t fit in one screenshot, and I respect their privacy (my own is debatable. I have never tried to hide my identity because it’s everywhere online anyway. Can’t be a political organizer in this day and age and be anonymous online).
Can we pause here for a second? I want to make sure I understand what the “original transgression” is. Using a PM thread to contain complaints about other posters and brainstorm options to, at least in their perspective, improve the forum seems like a completely reasonable thing to do and I don’t understand why it’s being treated as the original sin. (I also might be misreading, which is why I’m asking for clarification.)
That adds extra mod work to the whole exercise to get everyone’s original name unbanned, it’s easier to keep up with the ghosts at least than the GeeWhizz and dadbuds.
I haven’t read a lot of threads that lead up to this, so I don’t have all of the context. But even assuming for the sake of argument that your characterization of jmakin as the ultimate instigator is correct, I still wouldn’t permaban him.
I’ve been reluctant to wade into this discussion, but I want to say this.
Accusations of trolling and gaslighting are being used much too loosely. Maybe it comes from my postmodern orientation, but I understand that two intelligent people can see the same data and come away with different interpretations and conclusions. That someone you think is rational says something different about what happened does not mean they have to be lying and are trying to gaslight you for nefarious purposes.
With the original PM thread now hidden, I am adverse to making any claims about what I read without having the previous posts to refer to and document what I think happened. I know my memory isn’t great and I don’t want to mischaracterize anyone’s position. I encourage anyone making claims about another poster’s previous posts to cite those posts instead of relying on common knowledge that everyone “knows” is true. At the very least, it will slow down debate and serve as a natural throttle on any back-and-forth exchanges.
I’m saddened but not surprised by all of this. I may be disappointed in a lot of you, but this forum still provides value for me and as long as it does, I will stick around until I am tossed out the door.
I don’t know, tbh, but since it didn’t seem like the main purpose of the thread was so that they could all collectively brag about trolling I’m willing to ignore him and focus on the efforts of JT, micro, etc. Fidget isn’t even posting in this thread anymore so it seems like frustration with him is being channeled towards JT instead.
Did this screenshot come from the original Council of Captains thread? I was wondering at the time. I tried to match it to other threads and couldn’t find one.
For the record, I got back into the mod threads for a bit after my temp ban. Then I nuked them all again. Then this happened.
