Funny thing is even the most deplorable boomers seem to be down for the vaccine. Self-preservation might actually come before politics.
Not culpability - moral bankruptcy and huge hypocrisy, defined by the extraordinary gap between stated concerns and behaviours.
I’ve read more than enough posts here to know that many would have given their fellow boomers stiff competition in what you call deplorable behaviour during the 50s and 60s.
As you say - it’s always projection with conservatives.
Your example of “moral bankruptcy” is saving for retirement? Buying a house? A fancy dinner? I mean, ok, if your code has those things as morally bankrupt, fine, but why are you even on the internet if you expect everyone to live a life of aceticism?
Straw man
What?
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You literally are shaming people for having a fancy dinner, buying a house, and saving for retirement while things are still bad in the world:
As if any or all of us buying a house for our families was the final straw in the downfall of humanity. Sorry, what is the morally justifiable amount to spend on dining out in a week or a month or a year? And if I save up a decade’s worth of dining out moral credit, am I still a villain if I spend it all at once?
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You edited out the crucial part of my post to remove the parallel I drew between behaviours here and of boomers, which was the whole point - and you tacitly agreed with it when you talked about “some of the same people would have been responsible for the colonization of Africa in the late 1800s through World War II”.
Although you might like to think of yourselves as morally superior your (and every) generation are absolutely no better as people than boomers were, and being much more informed have even less of an excuse to behave every bit as selfishly as them.
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Absurd. No one is bashing boomers for buying houses and having retirement plans. We’re bashing them for taking those things for themselves and denying the spoils for everyone who’s come after them. The boomers had pensions for their retirements. Now that they’re in charge, those are gone and we’re left with 401ks at best. Boomers had affordable housing, but now they vote for eternally appreciating housing as an investment rather than continuing to build the affordable housing they bought into. Boomers had cheap college, but they voted to gut the government subsidies that made it possible.
Trying to find a bit of comfort and security in the midst of a crazy world is not at all equivalent to using the force of government to hoard all the prosperity for oneself, and it’s certainly not morally equivalent of profiting off of colonialism. In order to be making a remotely coherent argument along those lines, you pretty much have to be arguing for aceticism and that there is no morally acceptable consumption at all.
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And how do you think subsequent generations feel about yours for the extraordinary boom in house prices, caused mainly by your generation buying property not only to live in but also as investments, that’s made house ownership impossible for many of them?
What is my culpability in that? Be specific. And, uh, just what percentage of the investment property market do you think is owned by gen X or millenials?
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It should be quite clear that we are discussing generations, not individuals. If you want to make me personalise this you’ll have to do better than that. 
It’s this misconfusion miscommunication with my dad that’s the main reason I can’t speak politics with him, I also think it’s one of the main reasons I do well here in that I never take things personally.
Sorry didn’t mean to interrupt, and didn’t mean anything else here with this post, it’s just that I had a bad day last weekend trying to explain the UBI proposals that are getting some traction.
I’m going to stop taking politics with him going forward because he’s in his 70’s still quite able though, but time is short.
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Let’s go to the tape:
You’re the one who made it about people in this forum instead of millenials or gen X in the abstract, not me.
Ever have a conversation with an American and realize that they just don’t get something basic about where you live? That’s what is happening now. You just don’t have the base understanding of America that wookie does.
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Millennials, notorious for buying up all the houses.
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Another bad faith argument.
Plenty of Gen X over mortgaged themselves to buy bigger houses than they needed, or multiple houses as buy to let, here anyway.
There’s a lot of denial around, as well as projection.
It’s not bad faith.
And this is not unethical.
Differences in degree matter:
If you want to talk about bad faith, bad faith is claiming based on nothing but your own imagination that people in this forum would have acted and voted exactly like boomers to secure and increase their own wealth at the expense of people who come after them rather than taking them at their word that they hate this behavior and find it unethical.
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Yeah, you’re the guy who says we’re spending thousands of dollars for a dinner.
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Even Trump fucking took it, wants credit for it, and won’t actually promote it.
Now he’s Trump, so he’s a special case of WTF. But I’m sure that there are plenty of boomers who will quietly get it while still being outwardly covid-is-a-hoax-bill-gates-microchip-something-something-antivaxers.
If someone calls them on it, then it’s “Well I didn’t want to get it, but they wouldn’t let me on the cruise ship”.
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