This has been the law in CA for a long time. The rational is: the cops on the riot line should be shielded from personal retaliation. To do that, the riot line cops are ordered to replace their badge/id with the uniquely numbered, but otherwise anonymous gear. The cops keep a log of such gear assigned in case of complaints, court inquires, and such.
The way it works is this: if the cops at the action shift change, and the new cops aren’t wearing badges/tags… expect to be getting your ass beat in about 30 minutes.
Curfew in Philly tonight 9p-6a, shitload of cops all over West Philly. My buddy was just in North Philly dropping off a ride and texted me that it’s already starting to look like it’s going to pop off again.
I have trouble understanding the argument of those who say that the fact that Biden’s statement surely gains him more votes than it costs him, is not a sufficient reason for him to make it a week before the election.
I know you didn’t watch it because the stupid thing he said wasn’t looting is wrong (which it obviously is) but that he wants to work with republicans on the ACA.
One sabo posts gets through the ignore somehow and this is it. I take back any regret I might have claimed to have about feeling gaslit by cassette. Shit I’m going to go make the very short term ignore on cassette a hell of a lot longer. Simply unreal that anyone can’t see how absolutely over the top this is.
Honestly it had been so long since I read a sabo post that I really doubted myself for a split second when I read cassettes first post. I wondered if I was being unreasonable, my getting hazier memories of sabos posting didn’t feel particularly reliable in that moment, and I had to stop a second and evaluate. Then I really thought about it and decided that no, it was the other guy who was wrong.
And yeah I got a little bent out of shape about it, then regretted that almost immediately as well. Then through serendipity this particular sample slides through the great barrier of ignore and sears into my fucking eyeballs. Holy shit. What an experience. Fuck you again cassette.
The way he just shits all over people and assumes the moral high ground. Here of all places. It’s really gross. The lack of doubt really upsets me. I see the lack of doubt as a really serious problem too… every time you see some really ugly shit happen these true believers finger prints are all over it. When things stop going their way they just actively disbelieve it and act as if they are correct. Every time they are prevented from achieving their ends they just escalate to the next level of force. It ends with camps.
I’m not following the whole fight here, but noticed this because it got quoted. I’m guilty of this, and new people should be welcomed of course, but some people come here who pretty obviously know all of us, but they hide their identity? Weak sauce imo. If they’ve been talking to people here for years on 2p2, they should not hide that history.
One thing I’m interested in looking into more after the election is the way social media is driving this polarization and the way it’s being exploited. Like it’s easy to just say look at this crowd of absolute monsters cheering on murder, but algorithms are literally pushing people farther and farther into corners.
While I think the discussion over what blame goes where is relatively pointless (I don’t care because I know which side is good and which is bad and all that matters is winning and ending injustice), I do think it’s important to understand so that we can fight it.
Example: Philly cops pull an innocent black couple from their van, beat them, detain them for nothing. Female cop scoops up their kid and holds him.
I see: video of the beating.
MAGA sees: Cops protect kid who awful parents left on the street in a lawless riot
Replay this process hundreds of times and people get brainwashed. While I chose one where the protesters are 0% to blame and the cops 100% and the cops lied and made propaganda, I think the most important point is that some of us are seeing all the police violence and nothing protesters are doing that might be bad, and MAGA racists are seeing everything that makes protests look bad (even if it requires editing or out of context clips) and nothing the other way around. Their reality feels as real to them as ours does to us.
I feel 99.99% confident that my perception more closely matches reality than theirs, but if nothing else this helps me understand how there are these apparent racist lunatics having parades and waving flags in support of police brutality (or worse). The reality they are being presented is so warped that this becomes their response.
They certainly shoulder some blame for falling for it, but the bigger question is how to break the cycle.
A first thing to do is identify the teams, so to speak. For our purposes here, let’s focus on five groupings: (1) violent RWNJs, (2) MAGAs not also #1, (3) what you would call “the protestors” but I’ll call “civil society”, (4) the cops, and (5) those whose interests the cops protect in fact.
Group #1 has always been with us. This is nothing new. Remember Oklahoma City? They are not benign… but they aren’t a significant organized force on the field either. Group #4 holds that distinction.
Group #2 are the Tea Party 2020. It’s all astroturf. It doesn’t, and can’t exist on Ytoobz alone. Somebody has to keep writing those checks to prop up it’s existence. This crap will have rebranded again in a few years. Gotta keep the “product” “new”. They are certainly annoying… but they are otherwise benign, as they quite literally do nothing, never had, never will.
That’s one side.
That’s the agents of the other side.
I know you don’t like us chatting about these folks… but you know.
Groups #3 and #5 aren’t really that effected by the algorithms.
This is such a massive problem when a shared reality is necessary to have a peaceful society. But the blame doesn’t belong solely to social media. Take the local Philly news for example. Their coverage the past few nights has been 90% about looting/vandalism/needing national guard to protect the city from rioters/etc. and 10% about the Philadelphia police murdering yet another black man. This works wonders on shaping the perception of events on people our parents age, even if they’re well intentioned.
It’s a massive uphill battle when all the levers of power work to promote the copaganda side of these events, and one has to actively work to find - and now how to find - what we perceive as the truth (because it is ldo).
