But in all seriousness, the accounts Iâve deleted or banned are logged so itâs not something that requires speculation.
ETA: Actually thatâs not true, I did delete an account called Clarification without logging it because I didnât want to quote their post.

It was not denied. There was a vote on it, it passed, and then the people who wanted it gave up, presumably because it was a charade and they didnât actually expect people to give them what they wanted. The dog caught the car

Was it ever put up for a vote? I remember jmakin proposing a vote and then getting yelled at by the captains.
Thanks, that does differ from what I remember, but I wasnât very aware of the forum wars dynamic back then.
Unless Iâm missing something, this is the only remaining thread on the topic. It got shut down at the end after cassette proposed accepting the results of the vote. I thought there was a second thread on it but couldnât find it.
Animosity in this forum has clearly been on the rise for some time. I liked this place a lot better when it was more horizontally moderated and would like to open a new subforum with that style of moderation. Anyone can see that the moderation philosophy has shifted from more horizontal to much, much more vertical as time goes on. So, just like OOT and The Lounge had separate moderators and posting guidelines, our new subforum would have separate moderators and posting guidelines. Were we to oâŚ
Serious question
Why donât we just make one sub forum and remove all modding? It was already agreed to and seems like a reasonable test case. Worst case we can remove it. Anyone who doesnât like it can silence it.
I donât see a downside. Am I missing it?
They literally already have it. They have it! Itâs plain as day to anyone paying attention that this isnât really about a heartfelt desire to have an unmoderated forum. Itâs about the desire to hurl insults at their forum enemies without repercussions. That is the only thing they arenât being allowed to do here, and itâs the only thing they canât do at their cool kids club where theyâve excluded their enemies.
Hurling insults is the only thing that draws moderation. As such, the only thing added by removing moderation is insults.
I didnât read the covid thread that much, but I donât think Churchill was hurling insults at people, and was repeatedly banned for what were seen as not properly sourced anti-vax posts
Letâs assume this is all true. What harm comes from us making one sub forum?
WOW THATâS A TOTALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY DIFFERENT THING! Cassette acktshually wants more explicit insults instead of just more insults. How about you report my post and get me banned, because thatâs basically a personal attack.
It could Foster an environment in which insults are hurled at one another that carries over into the rest of the form
Fair but isnât that already happening. Seems like trying it makes sense. Worst case it gets shut down.
Would you like to hang out at a place where a bunch of people hurl insults at you to their heartsâ content, and you have no recourse?
Going there is voluntary though.

I donât believe you are sincerely someone who âwants to talk about baseball and see pictures of my kidâs halloween costume and commiserate about the weather in London with a bunch of captainsâ so you can stop your charade.
I donât believe thatâs what happens either, as you so delightfully showed everyone with your hotlink. Solid work.
Basically no one has the discipline to be talked about and not look to see whatâs up. But how about you ask them what they canât get in their clubhouse or here in the status quo?
Oh yeah? Well I donât believe that you donât believe!

Fair but isnât that already happening
Link?