I don’t really understand why anyone would assume this is the case. If I send you a text message from my phone, I expect that once I hit “send”, the text of that message is no longer within my control. Why would an online forum be any different?
Then vote yes:
wut? The difference is enormous lol cmon. Users posts on an internet forum are nothing like an sms, they’re saved in a db the forum admins control.
Is there a technical fix for this? I agree that mods and admins should have zero responsibility to put in manual work. Can you hack together account deletion by just overwriting every post a user has with “Account deleted at user request”? Even for a high volume user, that should be doable in off-hours. (Or you could do it in chunks over a couple nights.)
I didn’t care that jal/Churchill were banned in particular. I objected to how it transpired.
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So you sabotaged the website on your way out. Anyway, not sure if this is still an admin account you have access to, but I strongly suggest that we remove goreo’s admin access if it is. Jmakin was banned for a year for using admin powers to leak a pm thread. Goreo actively sabotaged the website because he didn’t like how a moderator acted. His admin powers should be removed before he can do further damage.
Edit: We also probably need to figure out how to put something in place so this kind of thing can’t happen again.
Gregorio does not have admin access. I think people should consider how much he has contributed to this site over the years and why he was upset before criticizing him.
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I’ve worked on an admin-less solution but no one cared so I stopped. also, I was self banned but let’s not re-litigate that entire thing.
the circumstances in which oreo decided to do that seems to have been - a nominated mod acted in a way he disagreed with. is there more to it?
meb said he’d ban a few people and he did. he got community support. somehow I highly suspect if CN and whoever else he had mentioned got banned too, we wouldn’t still be having this insane discussion.
now the poor guy appears to have been run off the site by the same group of bullies. threats appear to be happening. he is a good poster that I believe was acting in good faith and now it’s gonna be retconned by the same gaslighters into some enormous nothingburger of a “scandal.”
sorry meb. I believe you tried. I’d have preferred you went about it a little differently but I support what you were trying to do and I believe that without more of that this place is fucked.
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As econophile said, goreo doesn’t have admin access
I removed the title that said goreo was an admin account.
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Stop picking at his carcass.
After I was de-admined I asked meb to anonymize this account to avoid any confusion, but he didn’t respond.
I order for that to happen I would need to temporarily be an admin
If he’s no longer an admin then I agree there’s no reason to litigate this further. His title indicated he was an admin, but you changed that, so the confusion is now cleared up.
Standard.
In case you’re not being intentionally disingenuous and missed my dozen earlier posts:
A mod campaigning on a plan “truly to bring this community back together,” in which "the initial bans will not be viewed as all being from one ‘side’ or ‘team,’” immediately banned two users from the same “team,” one of whom had just survived a poll of the community regarding whether he should be banned.
Then, when another mod posted that "meb discussed his bans with ALL current mods earlier in the week and told us who the ban candidates were, nothing has changed since then to target any side,” I took that to mean that meb had the support of the other mods, which is what I found really objectionable.
Yeah this. WTF people. Oreo is one of the nicest, most helpful, and most reasonable people here.
I’d also support re-admining him. I mean what’s the worst case? He leaves and the site is like it is right now. I suppose he could do worse, but I don’t think he would. Apparently everyone doesn’t share that view.
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And when that turned out to be completely wrong…
you know what, never mind. Good grief that was so fucking stupid. Not just you, lots of people.
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It’s weird how “the same group of bullies” keeps being different people who just happen to disagree with your small clique. Anybody that disagrees with Jman, jmakin, wookie, goofy, CN and a few others is a Captain and a bully. Give me a break. People eventually see through this obvious nonsense, but unfortunately only one or two at a time so your game works. Good news is that by the time you “win” you guys will be the only ones remaining here talking to yourselves.
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this strikes me as a little hollow given that of all the people you just mentioned -
- I would’ve also banned CN
- I publicly called wookie a snake and I’m fairly certain I’ve not exchanged a word with him since I’ve “returned”
- goofy voted to ban me
- I’m not sure where jman stands but I ended up voting for meb which I’m pretty sure he was vehemently against
so it does seem to me like the “captains” or whatever self aggrandized titles they give themselves these days certainly like to form these elaborate plots and grievances so they can continue to make 90% of their posts on about UP complaining about how relentlessly they are bullied and how great their super secret site is, when seemingly the only ones to ever come in here screeching about mistreatment or acting insanely abusive are… themselves. easy to see through indeed, in my opinion.
the discord “conspiracy” was non existent as is a lot of the stuff I’ve read the last day or three. just making mountains out of mole hills.
and no, oreo, I had missed that and was not being purposely disengenuous, but I don’t see why it really changes anything, nor does it escape my notice that we’re not having the same absurd and silly conversations about what you have access to that I still to this day have, and I did notice your staff eagerly rushing in within seconds to confirm your story. don’t know what to make of that, really, but I did take note of it.
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Well no I’m not going to get into a series of back and forth posts with somebody who just completely fabricates shit, so good day.
Yeah I’m really astonished by the harsh criticism. oreo’s put in a lot of free work to keep this place more fun.
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