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Iām rescinding my strict policing of your posting. This is partly because I donāt want to spend the time to track all of you that closely. But, moreso itās because Iām hoping youāll self-moderate. I hope you, and everyone involved in a protracted argument, sees that many other people who have nothing to do with it donāt like it.
I know the list was not perfect and you were not all equally innocent or guilty and Iām lazy for not getting to the root of it all and although I tried to be as fair as I could, I know not everyone sees it that way.
Soā¦for meā¦back to āplease try to be nicerā for the time being.
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Clarification is good. 
One thing the whole forum can probably agree on is that modding here is a nightmare.
Eh, itās not that bad. And since itās temporary for me, even less bad. Some people are pissed at me, some people are patting me on the back, whatever. In a year people wonāt even remember that I had been a mod.
This is what I wrote in a different thread that I think is a direct response to your question:
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I was offering the 2p2 SE FAQ as an example of both a good set of stated rules AND an example of where the rules had worked successfully for a period of many years. People who were moderated by those rules include both 1) high-quality posters who took a brief time-out and thereafter continued to post in a high-quality way, and 2) terrible posters who received a series of escalating time outs until they were ultimately permaād.
That seems pretty ideal from my perspective.
[Also, this thread was locking me out from replying for way more than 15 minutes after my last post.]
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Youāre not going to have any problems from me. People thought I was trying to use a threat of leaving to get my way, but thatās not what I was doing at all. I get why they thought that given my track record, but I was 100% serious and still want to be permabanned.
I have a few thoughts and apologies Iāll post later. Iām busy with real life stuff today, but I imagine Iāll be posting that tonight or tomorrow and hopefully moderators will accommodate a permaban at that point in time once Iāve apologized to people who I feel I owe an apology to and shared some final thoughts on what I did wrong, why I did it, what I thought this place could/should be, and what I realized it is/will be.
I knew strict moderation wasnāt going to last because thereās not a strong enough mandate, never has been, and never will beā¦ and I knew how this would play out if I chose to stay. I donāt wish to be subjected to the inevitability of ongoing abuse/trolling, I donāt wish to be involved in the ongoing drama trying to call it out, and thus my choice is simple, clear, and not subject to change.
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I hope my reply wasnāt snarky - I donāt think that my original post was clear.
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Sounds like the option we need to try but havenāt been willing to is to put the worst offenders in a Discord chat and let them have at it.
The rest of us do as we have been and put our microphones on mute and just listen. I predict about five minutes before theyāve broken open a pint and punched each other at least twice, but at least theyāll be in a good mood.
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Iām up for this as long as no one takes the piss too much out of an English accent. 
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This is a great idea. Me and 6ix hashed it out on there, and we had some good times even. And we really didnāt like each other at all.
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I doubt anyone cares what your reasons are. The majority of us donāt want you to leave. Apologize to those you want to apologize to then drop the whole thing and move on.
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Iām only 3 episodes into this season so I am avoiding that thread like the covid-19.
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The majority of people here donāt want me to leave but they also want me to tolerate incessant abuse that Iām not willing to tolerate. I have no obligation whatsoever to subject myself to that just because people want to read my regular posts, just like nobody has any obligation to pay attention to or inform themselves of the abuse Iāve been receiving or do anything about it.
I chose to accept that the abuse will never stop, to accept that the community doesnāt care and will never make it stop, and not to subject myself to it. Thus I chose to leave.
Iām not telling you your experience isnāt true for you, but you are wrong here every time you say this as though itās true for anyone else.
We want you to explore a new way to assert boundaries against bullying and abuse, because your present strategy involves you bullying and abusing the people youāre fighting with. Your present strategy involves bullying and gaslighting the people who love you and support you. Your present strategy causes pain and fear to the rest of us witnessing your actions and the pain they cause to your targets.
No one is telling you to tolerate abuse. Please stop saying this. It is equivalent to gaslighting at this point to keep insisting on it.
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I wonāt be too crushed if you leave, but thatās only because I really canāt stand extended multi-quote responses.
But thatās really my own issue, I understand that.
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Thank you, I tried typing something similar to this but you did a much better job than I could have
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I know you think this is true, but for three weeks I have (again) avoided doing anything to provoke the people intent on fighting me, Iāve flat out ignored a large number of barbs that flew under most peopleās radar, and Iāve flagged the ones I thought were most deserving of moderation. I did explore a new way, and even the ones that rose to my level of flagging were overwhelmingly ignored or rejected.
It escalated again, the new way didnāt work so I got involved, and here we are again.
No itās the reality of the situation. If you donāt believe me, ask jman and jbro. They both noticed it, too, and posted about it. I know most people donāt see the non-stop abuse because itās subtle and itās not directed at them, but itās there.
So itās this simple:
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Pointing out the abuse or flagging it results in nothing being done.
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Pushing back on it is unacceptable to the community.
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But people donāt want me to leave.
All three are 100% true and there is no way to add that up that doesnāt result in me having a choice to either tolerate abuse that will never end or leave.
Just because people donāt use the words ātolerate the abuseā doesnāt make the suggestion that I stay and let it go on any different. If you want to play semantics and say that they donāt believe there is abuse and donāt want to go see for themselves, thatās fine. The end result for what I need to do doesnāt change regardless.
But Iām not interested in getting into a back and forth about this. Youāre 100% sure what you said is true, Iām 100% sure what I said is true, youāre a nice guy who means well who is nice to almost everyone and I really donāt want to argue with you. Thereās no point in discussing it beyond that because I have made up my mind.
No, shots had been taken at me in previous days in other threads that I ignored. And this is what happens - shots are taken for weeks/months and when I respond to one, whether against me or jman or someone else, thatās when things blow up and nobody remembers or even notices the continuous one-way abuse in between.
Youāre missing the times there are shots taken at me over and over that I ignore that keep it going until I respond to one.
Clearly nobody but a handful of us notices or cares, and thatās fine. Consider me oversensitive, or a liar, or delusional about it. I donāt care. I know whatās going on, I have experienced it personally as have others, and Iāve made my decision on how to proceed in light of how the community feels about it.
So at this point we have decided we are site with no modding, no rules and a free for all it appears.