2024 Election POST MORTEM

Lets take a look at the one year follow up

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Pretty much sums it up

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And did anyone tell him that ICE will not have a problem deporting the entire family even if his daughters are US citizens?

When Hitler is talking about the Jews I don’t think he means Jews like me.

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I am not sure that was the thinking back then but I think it is a very interesting question why so many Jews remained in Germany after all what Hitler and his entourage said all the time. They just couldnt believe that a country with such a rich cultural history could go down that path.

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Actually more than half of the Jews in Germany emigrated before WWII.

Overall, of the 522,000 Jews living in Germany in January 1933, approximately 304,000 emigrated during the first six years of Nazi rule and about 214,000 were left on the eve of World War II. Of these, 160,000-180,000 were killed as a part of the Holocaust.

And I guess that a lot of those who stayed didn’t have the means? Just going to another country was much harder back then; there was essentially no visa-free travel anywhere.

Because he wants them to die.

Generally yeah… Some people didn’t believe until too late, but it wasn’t easy to leave.

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Yep, my grandparents said that a lot of their friends never evacuated despite having the opportunity, because they refused to believe that the Germans, who they lived alongside for generations, would ever do that to them.

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All politics are moral politics. Trump won because he has tapped into something deep in the American psyche: Strict Father morality. This is a hierarchical view of the world, rooted in the metaphor of a family with a dictator-like patriarch whose word is law. Millions of American brains are wired to accept this moral system, and this is why none of the facts about Trump (his impeachments, his convictions, his lies) mattered.

In the aftermath of his victory, there are – once again – many explanations for why he won. Most of them are piecemeal and incomplete. Strict Father morality is the key to understanding why Trump retains a strong support base. Trump’s supporters accept his moral authority over everything else, so the focus on his flaws did not matter as much as his braying promises to rule the country as a strongman.

How could so many people vote for someone who does not have their best interests at heart? Because people don’t necessarily vote their self-interest. Instead, they vote their values.

Unfortunately, Trump reflects the values of many Americans – even those whose “self-interest” is clearly threatened by his policies. Working class voters, white women, Latino and Black men – all of them are under threat by Trump and his ilk. Yet a considerable number voted for Trump because they identify with him on a deeper level, on the level of moral values, in particular Strict Father morality. Moving forward, Democrats need to understand this and to abandon the mistaken notion that people vote their self-interest, which leads to the mistaken assumption that policy alone will persuade voters to support a Democratic ticket.

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(pharma is wrong but tech/crypto bros should’ve gotten a jet instead of a chopper)

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Missouri pretty much sums up the biggest problem–they voted for abortion measures, sick leave, raising min wage

voted Josh Hawley by 14 points and trump by 18 who support none of that over the dem that does

just make all the dems in redland independent, deb fischer only won by like 7 in neb. Doesn’t get them wins most of the time but a few states aren’t absolute zero doing that.

messaging–R’s won on volume, I was a little surprised how many people who don’t watch the news were all of a sudden anti trans. Also need to dumb it down a lot and realize most don’t know anything. Millions of americans found out biden wasn’t running when they were wondering why he wasn’t on the ballot.

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I mean I’ve said it before, but I think having these separate ballot measures are a net negative because Republican voters in those states think they can get the best of both worlds. If you’re a GOP voter that wants all that stuff, but also kinda hates brown/queer people, then not having the ballot measures might at least put you in two-buttons meme mode and there’s a chance you’ll vote blue. I mean honestly getting to pick and choose probably even gets some mildly racist democrats to flip red.

Obviously this. Promise everyone a pony and hammer that message. And then if/when it actually gets you elected, find a way to get everyone a fucking pony so they believe you next time. It’s fine to also pass the technocratic shit that actually is really good legislation but nobody understands why, but that’s like the socks and underwear gift that won’t be appreciated but nobody cares because they got a pony too.

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Anyone have a link handy to that poll where they asked voters questions about the economy and people who were wrong voted more Trump and correct voted more Harris.

Also the one where people preferred dem policies if you didn’t say what candidate supported which one.

Tried google and searched here, couldn’t find it.

Why is pharma wrong?

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Yes! That’s the one. Thanks!

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their stonks all went down on the RFK announcement can’t make money on all the vaccines we won’t have

Yeah but isn’t trumps chief of staff a former big pharma lobbyist?