2023 Israel Conflict - Ground Forces Enter Gaza

well, correction, i am judging everyone in the government and their media outlets. to a point where I might get arrested soon.

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i feel like thereā€™s arrests that keep you up at night and arrests that allow you to sleep like a baby. do what you gotta do, homie.

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I think thatā€™s why referring to it as ā€œIsraelā€™s 9/11ā€ has become so common, because Americans at least can remember exactly how we felt after that happened and it sounds very, very similar to what youā€™re describing. Itā€™s unfortunate that when countries are united by anger they tend to lash out and harm innocent people in the process.

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While I mean this is a no disrespect whatsoever to any American - the US is too big for you to feel that proximity. It would be similar to how New Yorkers felt after 9/11 surely. Every single person in this country knows someone who was murdered Saturday.

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I didnā€™t realize Joe Sakic was on their editorial board.

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Egypt closing the border seems cruel.

I donā€™t know exactly how to ask this, are there any voices to just slow down the military response, to provide a slightly more reasonable amount of time for civilians to flee or to have international bodies attempt to negotiate something about corridors and evacuation zones, and if not, is it because there remains a sense of imminent danger of more large scale attacks from Hamas that the military response can stop by invading now, or is it mostly because of the climate of anger you just described?

Iā€™ve already said I donā€™t like 9/11 comparisons, and itā€™s evident now that in many ways 10/7 is worse for Israelis than 9/11 was for average Americans, but it took America about a month to invade Afghanistan after 9/11, and Iā€™m going by memory here, it was a relatively conventional and not exceedingly rushed campaign.

The difference is the existence of hostages.

No.

There might be discussion of should we kill them all or allow them to run. Thatā€™s the extent Iā€™ve heard. The small minority will add ā€œitā€™s a shame about the innocent lives lost but we have no choiceā€.

The left/right only differ by who they blame.

Is there any chance Netanyahu is a dead man once this is over?

Are you talking literally or politcally? I doubt heā€™ll be assasinated. If he stays in power/gets elected again I donā€™t think Israel will continue to function as a country.

Literally.

itā€™s not unexplainable, history is littered with examples and really, we can all understand if a bunch of people jumped the border and slaughtered us, the sentiment is them or us and weā€™re not picking them.

there were too many people cheering globally an attack that was killing whatever civilians they could find and some having planned bringing explosives to blow up doors and safe room doors, it sucks that reaction is to just blast everything in response but if they wait, that just means more civilians hamas gets to use as shields or using their homes. This isnā€™t the way old era where they stood there in the open and you all just went at it until someone won. Hope for the best but itā€™s all going to suck and I certainly canā€™t blame them; itā€™d be my general position to not give them another chance after that.

Only if some non israel enemy got to him I presume

https://twitter.com/Ali_Gharib/status/1712949785718907385?t=HwKJNdQkz4vSdePxpelSyw&s=19

https://twitter.com/rafaelshimunov/status/1712957726106480809?t=rWYzlk48SQ32Jwhg_eo66w&s=19

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Coming to this late. But is this how it went.

-state a number

  • admit it was made up, but you believe itā€™s true
    -reject clear data showing that number is incorrect.

Did I miss anything?

Seems about right. But itā€™s OK to do it because brown people bad

So, any chance you can describe how you might ā€œsee it in real lifeā€?