at the same time, we’ve surely already reached the stage where the death tolls have equaled.
what’s the difference between 40 dead kids on one side that may or may not have been beheaded and 160 reported dead children on the other side do to israeli bombs killing civilians. it’s all equally horrible and not justifiable
Battle of Verdun during WWI always comes to mind during these.
The Germans launched two million shells during their opening bombardment—more than in any engagement in history to that point—and the two sides eventually fired between 40 and 60 million shells over the next 10 months.
Guess all the news got the same memo. Israelis get killed, Palestinians just suddenly die. Maybe it’s just old age in Gaza.
They’re dying with war, not from war.
We will see if these foreign press members report on this, but this appears to be a legitimate journalist.
https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/1711784332543627549?t=kYuAzNS3gv9e8KI7fo9RGA&s=19
“there are no photos so it’s fake”
they’re not going to show photos of THAT you fucking sick assholes
Dead Palestinian baby pics are all over twitter.
Scouring twitter for as long as I can stand it, I still can’t tell if the baby thing is true. But there’s no question horrible things happened at the kibbutzes.
I still can’t believe that Rashida Talib called Hamas slaughtering random civilians “resistance”. Just bizarre.
In hindsight, could the British have just annexed land from Germany to create a Jewish state?
Are the people at these protests not afraid of being fired?
Jews didn’t have 2,000 years history in Germany. Also a small percentage of Jews who died in the holocaust were from Germany. They were mostly from other countries like Poland and Soviet Union.
Most proposals for the establishment of a Jewish homeland or state seem to prefer locations outside of Europe for…reasons, I suppose. One exception was a Soviet idea for a Jewish autonomous region in Crimea.
Netanyahu and his family has done more damage to Jews than anyone since 1945.
The IDF issued rare public statements in recent months, warning that military deterrence was deteriorating. Netanyahu and radical members of his cabinet derided the officials as part of the protest movement, and the protesters as “anarchists,” asserting that the status quo with the Palestinians would hold.
“The modus vivendi was that Hamas takes care of Gaza, Israel allows it to prosper, with the relatively small price that Israel paid every so often, with a round of violence in which Israel would kill thousands of Palestinians and Palestinians would kill dozens of Israelis — that was considered the best Israel could hope for,” said Eran Etzion, former deputy head of Israel’s national security council. “Now that strategic equation has been completely violated.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/09/israel-hamas-attack-gaza-intelligence/
I’ve been of the opinion that the only thing that could move Israel towards negotiating a more long-term solution is to present a viable security threat that changes the payoff matrix so that doing a deal becomes more attractive vs trying to maintain the status quo. The risk, of course, is that this changes the evaluation of a more destructive option into something worth pursuing, now that Israel has been wounded in a way that makes Gaza and Hamas no longer seem like a manageable problem.
It feels very unpredictable to me how the national psyche in Israel will react to what seems like a massive blow to the belief that they could handle anything thrown their way. Will it be like Israel’s 9/11, where a traumatic even inspires a harder attitude towards perceived enemies, or will it be more like the Tet Offensive, where an initial rallying boost in support for the Vietnam War gave way to people turning against the war effort? This could lead to a reassessment of the situation and the start down the road towards something different, but the pessimism I see from so many makes me feel like the former is more likely.
The reasons seem obvious. A historical connection to the Middle East and not wanting a homeland at the same place your people were subjected to genocide.
Most proposals by non-Jews, I should say.
The whole “there are no dead babies” discussion is idiotic. Israel released this information AFTER allowing foreign press to go into Kfar Aza. There are also kidnaaped toddlers and children. Dehumanizing those who did it isn’t a negative thing, it’s a moral duty. The intelligent thing is to understand who not to dehumanize (the population of Gaza, for example) and not try to keep the horrors within the range you are comfortable with.
I doubt many Americans cared about the speech yesterday, but since we are without a functioning government for a week while going through the hardest events on the Jewish people since the holocaust – That speech was more important for Israeli morale than you guys can imagine. I’d be cynical if I was detached from it of course and I’d be cynical if I had loved ones in Gaza suffering unimaginably, but I’m not. I live here. That speech meant a lot.
