2022 World Series of Poker - Commonwealth goes on a heater

Out of all the twitch streamers I’ve watched, he was the most entertaining.

Everyone should count and take a picture of their stack before they go on break.

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Yeah I started doing that forever ago.

Most annoying thing I ever had was once they broke our table before dinner, didn’t move the stacks so I get back and am the only player at my new table. No hands for 15 minutes in a turbo.

just looked at Elezra and in the last 10 years he has 4 bracelets, 2 2nd place, 2 3rd places. And he is most likely a losing poker player.

ya I was just looking at the list of bracelets here. World Series of Poker multiple bracelet winners - Wikipedia

Quite a few people with 4 bracelets won recently.

Asi is a friend of mine and he won 4, has two 3rd and a 5th and played under 100 events. He probably thinks he’s running just a tad over expectations but not really.

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Without looking at the list, I would guess two big reasons are lots more WSOP events than there used to be and more high buy-in events with small fields. Just a guess, though.

Ladies tourney is over. They’ll stream Hellmuth’s FT with hole cards in about an hour.

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Highlight of the Hellmuth stream

https://twitter.com/GGsDLo/status/1543491526810025985?t=eQueg41UBVbgprUkEHaVhQ&s=19

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After watching that stream I think I’m on team Clovis. Hellmuth is so bad. He must be the luckiest player alive.

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@anon38180840: Sorry to @ you twice, but since you seemed on the fence about Hellmuth, I thought you should see this.

Three-handed at 3k NL WSOP event. Chip leader in SB with 70bb raises to 2.5x (antes are on). Hellmuth with 30bb flats KhJh in the BB. Flop comes 4s6d7s. Check check. Turn Jd. Chip leader bets pot. Hellmuth thinks for about 10 seconds before folding.

For more context, chip leader was aggro throughout the stream, applying pressure as he should. He had previously bluffed Hellmuth and showed the bluff. After this inexplicable fold of TP2K, Hellmuth then announces his hand to the chip leader (which I’m grateful for, because I was thinking it must be an error on the card reader).

There’s just no justifying this kind of behavior. A good player does not do these things. If you’re curious what Hellmuth folded to, it was 2s5h for the no pair bad straight draw.

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Sure it’s a big part of his “game” but his skill is being an asshole, not a poker player.

As for HU, you are just objectively wrong. It’s the closest to a solved version of poker and he simply plays poorly. No HU specialist thinks otherwise to my knowledge and his plays have been run through solvers over and over and shown to be just plain bad.

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You are essentially saying you are impressed by luck. If you concede he is technically poor then I don’t see what is impressive. Someone was going to be the guy in the fifth standard deviation. It’s just so happens to be him.

I think the main lesson is LOL DONKAMENTS

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Yeah that’s terrible, guess he made an extremely bad read.

A lot of his “terrible” plays work, though, and I assume are live read based. Like what is he on those heads up matches on PokerGo? 9-1? Even after seeing him in the first two matches making predictable, ridiculous, ~zero equity bluffs, those guys kept folding to him.

There are poker skills other than technical play.

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You do realize using his 9-1 HU sng record is only evidence you don’t understand variance?

It is essentially meaningless. If you played an unlimited number of HU sngs with a random player against the best player on earth it is 100% the random player would hit a 9-1 run.

Sure but the odds of hitting a 9-1 stretch in a given sample of 10 are much higher if you’re a big winner than if you’re a big loser.

That would be correct if that was the only data point people were using.

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i listened to phil helmuth’s audiobook narrated by the author when it came out and i was playing online all the time, and i just remember that i thought at the time that he was doing a comedic character and that it was a satirical poker book.

it wasn’t until years later that i learned the truth

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