World of Warcraft (classic wotlk)

I WFH so it isn’t usually that tough to stay online all day… or jump in the queue around lunch then I can play after work. The real struggle is I’m glued to my phone when walking my dog checking the remote desktop app to babysit my login so I don’t get kicked for inactivity.

I’m enjoying lvl 80 though. Heroics are ez, raids are ez, getting honor is ez, and rogues aren’t outcasts anymore. I pop over to one of my alts and try to run a dungeon here and there just to burn off some rest XP since there still seem to be enough groups. 3 UKs got about 50% of a level and, if I do it right, I can have rest XP all the way to 80 on the alts.

I’ll take babysitting my connection over the world buff meta of classic vanilla. Imagine world boofs with the queues :laughing:

dont take it for granted, ulduars gonna be a wakeup call for a ton of people

Got 80 last night - now I can finally play the game!

I did a heroic world tour last night pretty much just by using the group finder tool. rarely ever wait for more than 5 mins for an invite, even really late at night, which was cool. Got a bunch of pre raid bis already. Heroics hilariously easy, I guess I got used to warmane - they’re super hard there. hunter was a smart choice for me I think since I’m so behind - they need basically 0 gear to start pumping as survival, I’m usually far ahead on dps in dungeons already and half of my gear’s still brutal. the other great thing about hunter is I’m barely ever competing with anyone on gear.

On my last 10 darkmoon card crafts I’ve got 7 nobles cards so I am quite happy with gold right now.

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How do you typically use this? I have mostly just been messaging folks that look like they have a few members of the party and often get ignored. So maybe I’m doing it wrong. :man_shrugging:

I just list myself as dps on all the heroics and get invite typically within minutes. everyone likes hunters though, my dps is ridonculous

stella keeping my connection alive for me

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This seems to work with moderate success. May be still a bit of latent rogue stigma in that it takes a little longer, on average, than directly messaging.

I haven’t seen a queue longer than like 1k in a few days. I’m wondering if logins have actually dropped that quickly?

Also, currently getting 500k xp/hr for losing AV on a level 71 is kinda OP, I can only imagine the xp/hr for wins. I like to queue up a little bit when I don’t have time to focus on a dungeon and kinda play mindlessly with some AFKs. Certainly enough clicking in-game between shitposts on UP to evade any detection by this small indie company. Also seems like 50% of folks in AV are <80.

ETA: ding 72 while prepping dinner

im gonna have to level av on all my alts then, but I feel soooo guilty doing it.

inscriptionist hack - My latest thing is waking up at 3-4 am my time which is EOD china time and all the botters dump their herbs in bulk on the AH for very cheap. I’m incredibly addicted to this profession, and I finally just hit 450/450, which appears completely pointless because there’s not much you can learn past 410 anyway.

noble card price floor is 600 which is exactly what I can make them for. typically tho with patience I can move cards for 800-1.1k when one inevitably gets scarce. aces always go for 1k+ which is odd because they have the same droprate as the other ones.

full decks are selling for 6.5-7k so even buying 8 cards @ 600 is quite profitable but the decks are much harder to move.

I’m running like complete ass, but I can share a really great pro-grade spreadsheet for calculating how profitable card crafting is if anyones interested in it.

yeah i started hitting the AV’s on my alt yesterday… i’m ally, so the Av’s were popping every 4-5 minutes or so and i was getting between 160k-200k per AV. also heirlooms WERE working on the exp gains. (not sure if intended). but at 76 or so i was getting 13107 per tower w/o and 15728 with, which is exactly 20% increase from my 2 heirlooms.

also AV q’s changed so that it is 71-79 and then 80 is it’s own AV, which is GREAT for leveling, because then 90% of the people in there are just in there for exp. so no reason to feel guilty or anything.

picked up 3 levels yesterday from 76-79 just doing some questing and AV’ing… my shaman will hit 80 today, and my warrior might ALSO hit 80 tonight from this.

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nice, i might start finally working on alts - was that xp increased because of av weekend though?

i gray parsed naxx yesterday so im fiercely intent on getting enough gold for my greatness card when the faire comes around again, that was legit painful to look at

i dont know if it’s increased for the weekend or not. nothing says that exp is increased, just honor. but i guess we’ll find out tomorrow. BG weekends normally end around 3am tuesday morning.

still crazy to me that the Q just disappeared… 400 q in primetime on benediction tonight.

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inscriptionist stonks, i was running like dogshit too, had 22 straight rolls without a noble yesterday

alright I’m gonna tell you how I got here and how you can print money with just basic ass inscription and a little hustle.

this profession is the most fun thing I’ve ever done in WoW. It feels a lot like poker sometimes. so, basically, inscription to 410 (whenever you get the ability to craft darkmoon card of the north) is the only pre-requisite here, and I’d recommend at least 5k gold to start out with this to prevent risk of ruin.

Starting out the expansion I only had a few hundred gold. While the rest of you were turbo leveling to 80 for no reason, I stayed in the auction house, studying. Early on there was big money from milling herbs at 50g/roll into icy pigments and azure pigments that would sell for 20-30% profit on your mill on average. It was easy to get started with a low amount of money doing that, especially with quest gold so available.

The funny thing was early on people didn’t realize that snowfall ink does NOT require 2x icy pigment. You can trade 10x ink of the sea (20x azure pigment) for 1 snowfall ink at the ink trader in dalaran. So, it made absolutely no sense for icy pigments to be going for 50 gold and snowfalls for 100 - you could trade in 20x azure pigments for 30 gold and sell the snowfall ink for 100. lots of money the first week doing that, til people finally figured out the ink trader. That was my first indication that this market’s REALLY soft compared to the pros on warmane.

So, I got the ability to make darkmoon cards and binked a few early to give me a nice little jump to a few K gold. You will want to do some math here, but basically, of the higher level herbs (icethorn, lichbloom, adder tongue), if you are milling it all yourself, it takes 3.94 stacks of the higher herbs and 5.725 of the lower ones to roll ONE darkmoon card. If you want to see how I got those numbers, I can share my spreadsheet with you privately.

Now, on my server, this is a bit interesting, because goldclover et al go for 1/2 of what the high level herbs go for. This is a market inefficiency, because as you can see from the numbers I laid out, it only requires 50% more stacks of herbs for the lower herbs, so I try to buy goldclover in bulk, which is typically very easy and cheap, especially at particular hours of the day I’ve learned is when bots dump their supply.

so, then you need to figure out the cost of a few things on your server:

1.) what is the floor price of a nobles card? How do I calculate this? Well, few ways and there will be a few different numbers here. I bought adder’s tongue at 1g/each today. 4 stacks of that was 80g. 3x eternal life costs 40g, and then the 3x ink of the sea is ~3g, plus 50s for the parchment. So we are rolling 1 card for 123.50 gold. Since nobles drop 25% of the time, I simply multiply that by 4 to figure out what I’m crafting a nobles card for in that moment. 494g a craft, which is EXCELLENT, because I know from watching AH these cards never ever fall below 600, and the bulk buyers always try to buy at 600 (which effectively sets the price). You will want a chat addon to go through trade chat logs and figure these things out, that was the only way I could do it.

2.) what is the floor price of completed noble deck? the raw noble deck gets bought for 6k currently on my server buy the bulk buyers. I see people in trade WTB it for 6.8 on the spot, and it goes for 7-7.5 on the AH. So, I can put the price around 6500 and probably reliably sell it. there are 8 cards, so 6500/8 = 812 per card. We’re crafting at 500g so we are absolutely pillaging it whether we sell the cards individually for that much (harder) or even if we sell for 6k to the bulk buyers. wonderful. note: the ace for some reason always goes for twice as much for the others, so expect that. It has the same drop chance (another hilarious inefficiency).

3.) what is the price of a turned-in nobles deck? for which stats? Right now the agi/str ones are going for 20k+ because the faire is out of town. when the faire comes back that price will tank, but when it goes away, it’ll shoot back up again. If you have a lot of gold, sitting on nobles decks is probably a great idea while they’re very cheap right now.

So you basically just spam cards at a good price point and trade duplicates to complete sets. Watch the nobles cards market because cards will just randomly spike in price - I sold a 7 for 1200g yesterday. Wild shit like that. Or, when you get duplicates, try to trade for cards at good prices and people will sometimes just pay the difference. For example, I needed a 5, and I had 3 sevens - the 7’s were going for 900g for some reason, and the 5 was going for 700. The guy just gave me the 200 difference even though on average these cards are worth exactly the same.

The “junk” cards sell from 10-100g each depending on demand and how lucky you are so just throw them on the AH and they inevitably sell for some reason, which further increases your profit, because I calculate them as total losses in my EV calcs, so it’s free money if I can sell them.

Good luck!

Note: this is a horde megaserver prices. I have a contact on benediction and the market is very similar for him, but everything is cheaper on my server still. I expect the amount of bots you have on your server may make what I am doing completely impossible or very easy.

Casuals already raid logging.

Here is AV win this morning. Definitely less than I was getting for wins, but I only won like 2 the whole weekend I think.

av_win

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yeah that’s about half what i was getting. i was routinely averaging 150-190 i think the lowest i got was 135k so the weekend did double the exp… unfortunate.

i got 2 new 80s out of it though… so now i have 80 dk 80 sham 80 warr

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Definitely noteworthy for future AV weekends. I would like to get my priest, mage, lock, and druid to 71 to take advantage. Though, I’m realizing that 2 of those are already honor capped with vengeful+brutal pvp gear which really sucks… I guess they I’ll be getting all the pvp mounts… I’ll have to see if there is something better to spend honor on before level 80.

WOTLK update -

After last reset’s complete disaster where we took 5 hours and didnt even kill KT, we did OS 1d first try, and then completely 1 shot naxx in a little above an hour and were undying up to 40% on KT when this dipshit DK pug stood in the fire and died and we lost that. I was really upset about that, I’m literally fucking never ever gonna be in a spot like that again to get that achieve with this dad guild. No loot at all really from any dungeon, but it turns out all I super duper need is the gun off KT 25 man which has like 120 dmg more than the next best gun, which is absolutely stupid how they gate hunter weapons every phase like that, but w/e. It didn’t even drop this week, nor did my 2h weapon off maly. After gray parsing the first week I figured some shit out (wolf pet was super helpful) and managed to parse high 60’s/mid 70’s on all the bosses I was able to, except for gluth because I gotta kite all the zombies. I think with a darkmoon trinket i easily parse 90+ that raid, I played pretty well.

Been stonking on the cards. I’ve made nearly 9k this last week and a half just from arbitrage alone. It’s fucking nutty right now. Price on decks - which I price buy the average of what people say “WTB Nobles deck (price)”, not what people are trying to sell for - has risen by 1500 today alone. This ended up working out pretty well for me on accident, as I had been frustrated and sitting on 6 nobles cards but 3 of them were 8’s and two of them 6’s - was not willing to re-invest my remaining gold trying to bink the rest of them, so just kept an eye on trade chat hoping to get some trades and then complete it with a few low-priced purchases to fill in the gaps. Eureka! Today someone traded 2 of my 8’s for a 2,3, then my 6 went for a 7, and all I needed was a 4 and a 5 and I was in business, found a 4 for 850 and swallowed some pride and just bought the 5 for a wildly overpriced 1200g, and cashed out for 8k, finally bringing my raw gold total to above 10k for the first time ever in my wow career, fairly certain. that’s just my liquidity, it’s hard to say how much I actually have because I’m sitting on a guild bank full of random crap, plus all my banks stuffed on 4 guys now, running out of room. I’d wager I have 20k if i liquidated everything - I don’t know though. I gotta start getting the saronite shuffle going and my JC leveled up for the dailies, but inscription’s just so god damn addicting, that gamble factor.

I’m thinking it woulda been more prudent to hold it either for myself or for the faire and bank one, but I’m gonna re-crunch the numbers in the morning and see if I can spam more decks, I’m pretty sure it’s gonna remain profitable as long as I don’t run like complete dogshit.

PVP has been fun, except my 3’s team and I have concluded I need to respec to marksman to deal with all the paladin/warrior/dk we encounter, the disarm is way too valuable. I’m gonna have to re-learn how to pvp. i maintain that survival is probably fine for pvp and not as bad as people think, but maybe only in 2’s. I’m not exaggerating, I do not feel I can lose a fair 1v1 with this spec. Dead serious. I wish dueling for gold was a thing. My gear’s coming along, I have the full blue set + hateful gladiator legs and a bunch of other pieces from honor, sitting at 650ish resil.

I bit the bullet and finally leveled engineering up today after dropping herbs on my hunter, big sad, I liked the herbalism heal in arena but it just was not worth keeping at all for a shitty health pot.

marksman sucks, never spec’ing it, don’t care what the meta lists say, I hit like a limp noodle, especially against plate. The only upside to MM is that you get a CD reset, and a silence, with the tradeoff being you do tons less damage and have less survivability??? sorry, I just don’t see it. my wyvern sting effectively acts as an interrupt/silence (undispellable, takes them out of the game for 5 seconds almost always, and if they try to trink it, it’s completely gg because I can get a freezing trap on them) and I don’t find readiness to be overly useful in fast-paced arena games, nor do I find more burst compared to survival with it. I guess I need more armor pen and gear differently than I currently am (basically stacking agi),but damn, the difference was so stark that I played 1 BG and immediately switched back. I have a bit of an unorthodox build with survival for arena/BG but it’s working really well, stuff just melts and I can’t die.