If 10 miles at 8:00/mile was your max effort, a naive VDOT formula would estimate that your max effort mile would have been about 6:51.
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Thanks! These were standard “hard” long runs but not max effort. So maybe I could have gotten something like 6:30 for a max effort mile. These other dudes are running almost twice that fast for 2.5 times the distance of my old long runs – just mind boggling when thinking how much training and effort I put it into it back in the day.
I skipped a mile in high school faster than my entire gym class ran it. You don’t really get tired either, it was such a great troll.
Prob gonna test it out this weekend bc why not.
In the next few years somebody is going to run 200 miles in 24 hours (current record 198.6 miles). That’s 7:12/mile pace, so it’s basically like running a 3:09 marathon, and then running seven more 3:09 marathons, in one day
What the actual fuck how is that possible
Has there ever been a longitudinal health study on ultra-marathon runners? It’s hard to imagine they’re not doing permanent damage to their body in one way or another, including heart.
Ultras are a relatively new phenomenon, I think it would be hard to get longitudinal data on very many ultramarathoners.
There is a pretty large body of research on regular marathons that purports to show that they are “bad” for health. But those analyses tend to focus on the downsides rather than all the benefits. The running community includes a lot of people that use the psychological goal of a marathon to overcome behavioral biases that would otherwise prevent them from exercising. So I think that because of behavioral advantages of using marathons as motivators, most marathon runners are probably healthier than they would be if they never trained for or set the goal of running a marathon.
Ultras don’t intuitively have the same benefits. The couch potato → ultra marathoner path is probably not that significant and ultramarathoners probably would substitute out the ultra for a heathier activity. So I think that ultras are more likely to be net bad, they look more like an addiction than a healthy habit.
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sample size of 1 but my dad was a triathlete for most of his life and died of acute heart disease at 57.
I think pushing your heartrate above a certain level for long periods of time can definitely damage it though, right?
Yes, I think this is true.
Well I got a hold of some semaglutide and I’m going to start using it. NEJM study showed a -14.9% body weight loss on average. 86% dropped 5% or more. 69% dropped 10% or more. 50% dropped 15% or more. Average weight loss was 33 pounds.
I got enough for a few months (the dosing starts small and is slowly increased). Don’t think I’ll be able to get the full dose ever as my insurance doesn’t cover it at that dosage (2.4mg/week), but I might be able to swing it up to 2mg. My insurance covers it as a diabetes medication (which… err… I don’t have). I got these from someone else who was on it but doesn’t like it, so I figured I would try it before going through the process of trying to get a full prescription. I might have someone just write a prescription and see if they check. I’m guessing they would.
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Wait, so is there some sort of miracle weight loss pill out now?
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yea pretty much
Drink a dozen Mountain Dews and go in for a blood sugar test.
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Diabetes is tested with a test that estimates your sugar over 90 days unfortunately, otherwise would 100% do that
There’s two!
Wegovy (Semaglutide) and Mounjaro (tirzepatide).
Interesting, from my googling the results do look pretty damn impressive. You worried about stomach problems at all?
So what you’re saying is that you aren’t willing to drink 12 Mountain Dews per day for 90 days. And you call yourself an American.
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Yup. That’s why I didn’t try this awhile ago. Well see
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I was going to wait until until I finished the 3 months regime on Mounjaro. I mentioned hearing about the drug online and somehow she prescribed it for me. I had a look on the paperwork and my only condition was a high BMI, nothing about diabetes, but ok I’ll take it. I found the coupon online for 3 months at 30 bucks a month. I’m sure after the coupon the cost will skyrocket. My insurance won’t cover it and I don’t think I’ll be able to find one that would.
After 2 months I’ve lost 20 pounds. Trying to get 30 pounds in 3 months. I’ve been doing cardio for 30 minutes to an hour and weights for an hour to hour and a half. No real side effects. Some very slight nausea after the shot and occasional acid reflux but nothing really outside normal.
The good part of it really is the overall sensation. Going into a caloric deficit always made me feel terrible. That combined with the stress of life and family and I’d always fall off the wagon after a short bit. But on the medication being a caloric deficit wasn’t that bad. I could work out, eat 4 to 5 meals at 300 calories and not feel sluggish or ravenously hungry. It was actually a bit of a disorienting sensation to be working out hard and eating light and feeling ordinary instead of barely being able to move.
Somehow I got added to news feeds so now get articles about it. Apparently Lily thinks it’s going to do gangbusters. Currently they’re doing a lot of discount pricing and it’s causing some issues with supply because it’s in high demand in Hollywood. Get ready to hear about a lot of slightly out of shape actors suddenly show up being fit while talking about their ‘work out regimen’. I can’t say I blame them. I’ve done dieting stuff before and I’d pay top dollar that made losing weight this easy.
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I was starting to develop weight issues in ~2018-2020. was about 50 lbs over my ideal weight. I switched to intermittent fasting and it worked great for the type of eater I am - I like to binge eat, like really massive meals, but since I wasn’t willing to give that up (at that time) it was a lot easier to fast all day and then eat literally whatever the fuck I wanted for dinner, since ~1700 calories is a goliath of a meal most of the time.
As time went on I started doing small amounts of protein throughout the day (like hard boiled egg) to last til the larger meal and that kept my blood sugar more stable.
I know it’s a bit of a pseudosciencey thing but I really enjoyed it and rapidly lost the weight and it has stayed off, although I don’t really fast anymore. I typically have a small meal in the morning then a larger one for dinner.
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