That’s why this is so bizarre. We’ve all been saying the exact same thing, but using the term SS is an (admittedly) less-than-perfectly precise, but still very common way (which is what I did). And apparently it’s that usage that has your lawnmower in orbit rather than any disagreement on ridiculous caloric surpluses.
This entire AIDSfest was worth it just for this.
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I just posted about his program being non heart healthy. We wouldn’t be here if you didn’t try to separate GOMAD AND SS. I’d be walking the dog awhile ago. Apparently that comment was something to argue about for an hour.
Again, my post:
I think programs like Starting Strength do not promote overall heart health and fitness. Right? We can see that? I mean, he recommends drinking a gallon of whole milk a day for gainz. When I felt my best I was able to jump rope for 30-45 minutes at a time while lifting weights, walking 10+ miles a day and also non-weight exercises like burpees, crunches, etc. Not a scientist so don’t rip me. I do know that lifting weights is a huge boon to keeping mobile when old though so I think there must be a balance.
But that was like my whole point. You should separate them. You can do the lifting without the GOMAD. Yes I could have used even more precise language to express that, but never in a million years would I have anticipated this argument would have been the result of not doing that. Had it occurred that someone would be so confused about what I was trying to say, I would have spent the time trying to be more precise.
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Fwiw, in whatever weird card game I was developing at the time, SS + GOMAD was a combination play that had multiplicative powers.
Rip, is that you?
Sure you can do the lifting without the diet. But Mark as quoted said that if you aren’t doing the diet with the weight program you aren’t doing his program. Like, Is my English bad or something? Have you hung on his forums? He says the program and percentage of weights to gain is explicitly related to excess calories and if you aren’t getting the gainz you aren’t eating enough. For such a SS fanboi it’s weird I have to explain this shit.
I do not possess an irrational animosity toward leg press.
Come to think of it, that GOMAD sketch would work well as a snow globe.
And that’s all I have been advocating for.
Um, yeah. He does say all of that. His diet advice is dumb. I’ve said that multiple times. I’m not sure how that makes me a fanboi.
And I honestly thought those two points were pretty clear even in my very first post, but boy was I wrong!
Well, I guess you can’t be him then.
I can’t believe you had that in the vault and haven’t been using it as your avatar. Huge waste, imo.
I’m torn about whether you should draw the figure with a bit of a gut. Really lean into the GOMAD. It think that’s probably the right thing to do, but I really like it a lot as is. Maybe best not to mess with a good thing.
I could rework it although I’m not sure where the graphic tablet is. Other options would be 3D model or physical painting.
Wow. The fitness thread is super active! People must be hitting the gym!
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I’d like to argue with you about that assumption for a few hundred posts.
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First PROVE to me that know what and argument is. HAHA YOU CANT I WIN!
Unfortunately, keeping weight off can be harder than losing it in the first place. Our fucking bodies get used to the weight and can slow our metabolism down to make it harder to keep weight off.
Exercise sucks but not as much as not being able to go shopping without getting winded… Being inactive for long periods of time is much worse than exercising…
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The answer is obviously genetic susceptibility which is modulated by environmental factors. Self control is a tiny if not nonexistent factor. Obviously the people who are normal weight and who are not counting cannot even semi-accurately estimate how many calories they’re eating, yet the amount of accuracy required to maintain a narrow weight range is preposterously high. So it’s not that, but this also means that it can’t be self control because they don’t have accurate estimates of where they are in relation to energy out.
The idea that doctors don’t know can’t possibly be correct but I’m probably misunderstanding you. If by doctors you mean your local private practice doctor who graduated from medical school in 1990 and isn’t engaged in research, then sure that doctor probably doesn’t track the latest cutting-edge developments in obesity genetics closely. The people you want to pay attention to are the ones who are doing that research:
For a beginner, I disagree. They shouldn’t be lifting weights heavy enough that require those long breaks that would push a session over an hour.