Winter cricket and bridge thread - Held over by popular demand

Didn’t realize he’s a former GOP congressman.

New York Times editorial board member

https://twitter.com/NewsHour/status/1235875269606395904?s=19

This is why public policy (or running a business) needs to be about mechanisms and processes and not simply goals. (Frankly, it’s broadly why I supported Warren over Bernie, because she is focused on process.) It’s literally the old saying, “Amateurs focus on strategy and tactics. Professionals focus on logistics.”

Many of the great tragedies of human history (and minor tradgedies in war and business) can be ascribed to a failure to understand how to actually realize a goal at ground level without subverting more fundamental goals (don’t kill people, don’t permanently separate families, don’t destroy the thing that makes the business work). It’s also why big software projects invariably fail–software is all logistics. From what I know of history, it’s how you got mass starvation under Stalin and Mao (or most other famines), because a despot demanded that a logistically difficult or impossible vision be implemented without regard for the details.

Above all, logistics seems to completely mistify Trump. Like, he tried to run an airline and a casino, both of which are logistics businesses, and he failed in record time. He must have thought it would be “cool” to own them, but he’s too stupid to know what he doesn’t know and to change tactics in the face of new (or any) information or feedback. Hell, about the only business he’s suited for is collecting monthly rent.

Anyway, senior people at HSS and ICE should be put on trial and locked up.

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Is it wrong that I want to make DS watch that lolmath video Clockwork Orange-style?

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Bernie constantly talks about process. Maybe you just prefer the process of horsetrading on capital hill over a movement where large numbers of people are expect to pay attention and pressure elected officials, because that is process and it’s pretty much Bernie’s main thing. (Though this is me granting the premise where I shouldn’t. Bernie has been prolific at getting good amendments passed. The criticism that he doesn’t get things done is ridiculous.)

If you think his bills, like M4A, are more lacking in process than Warren’s maybe you’ve been paying more attention to media characterizations and less to the bills (and who cosponsors them as well).

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Warren supporters seem to be taking her exit much harder than Pete supporters took his, which is mind blowing because she didn’t even come close to winning a state.

More blame on MSNBC, the pundits, the talking heads, the suits and less on whoever Yglesias is conjuring up there.

With an asthmatic kid, those lease conditions, having explained the situation to them, yes.

He’s talking about the Bloomberg spent $1M per American gaffe.

Only one’s I’ve seen in freakout mode are Bernie supporters.

I know, and I know he’s on the joking spectrum there, but the joke is that the masses of people who failed to support Yang are dummies - look at how popular this stupid tweet is!

I don’t know how popular it is or how to know whether its popularity, however measured, is measuring how many people are fooled by it or are making fun of it. What we do know is that the producers and “talent” at MSNBC can’t walk and chew gum at the same time and they should be the butt of the joke, not the people who failed to support Andrew Yang math genius.

People are freaked out because they care about things like war, mass incarceration, and health care.

I get the frustration of Bernie supporters, and I get the concerns about Biden, but l also don’t get the frustration and see it as an indication of how much things have moved in their preferred direction. If the house is on fire, then you want the fire out, and the manner is secondary. 10 years ago we barely got Obamacare with Dems in control of all 3 branches. Now, a couple of years after Trump’s elected, when he’s threatening to get reelected, they want the leftmost agenda the country has seen since FDR? It’d be nice, but it’s not something to expect. Like, if your girlfriend dumps you, it may not be the right time to expect a date with Natalie Portman. That such expectations have some actual basis in reality (see vote totals for people under 50) shows how far things have shifted since even 2008. Hell, I’m bummed Warren lost but I don’t suspect anything nefarious, just that my preferences are not the preferences of the voters. I guess I have less short term optimism but more long term optimism, as I think we’re headed in the right direction and will get there eventually, so long as Dems are unified.

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I don’t think the analysis that the American public lines up on this left-right spectrum in that way is correct. The analysis that Bernie is like Trump in that it’s people hating their own party and what their party is trying to shove down their throat is probably more correct. People didn’t vote for Trump instead of Marco Rubio because they really really really really didn’t want Medicare for All or ending the war in the ME.

A perfect distillation of the difference between Republicans and Democrats.

The Republican response to the ACA passing by the skin of its teeth wasn’t “aw shucks, the country’s pulling slightly to the left, let’s reformulate our plans” it was “TEA PARTY!! DRAG THIS SHIT AS FAR TO THE RIGHT AS WE CAN!”

Trump gets in office and runs roughshod over norms and everything else packing federal courts with right wing judges that’ll be in office for 30+ years and the tempered Dem response is “gee whiz, let’s try to just put things back how they were when Obama left, don’t wanna rock the boat too much here”.

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But imagine knowing that Natalie Portman actually really wants to date you but you can only communicate with her via your friend for whatever reason. Natalie keeps telling your friend that she wants to f your brains out, and your friend keeps responding that no Simplicitus is not interested at this time, maybe ten years from now. She really needs to move on and f him instead. And eventually she does.

The MSM/Dirty Ds are your asshole friend in this hypothetical.

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https://twitter.com/RepKenBuck/status/1235944686910660609

https://twitter.com/cmclymer/status/1235958920256118784

Yassssss qween