Warm take - Plane seats simply should not be able to recline.
Or they should, but the seat in front of one that doesnât recline should have limited recline.
Uh ya some bald asshole is harassing a woman because heâs a bully. You think he does that shit if Ins0âs 6â 10â 300lb ass gets on the plane and decides he needs a little more leg room? Right.
I have pretty crippling social anxiety so reclining my seat on a plane and possibly inconveniencing the person behind me would never happen in a million years.
Your social anxiety is someone elseâs nice guy.
EDIT. not decrying your social anxiety
The guy seems like heâs probably on the spectrum.
Itâs hard to tell from a short clip - someone on the spectrum might behave identically to a complete arsehole with no medical condition in a lot of cases.
yeah so do i and if i reclined my seat and someone behind me tapped me on the shoulder and said hey can you please not recline your seat for whatever reason, and they were nice about it, i probably would because im not a monster.
but if some asshole started poking on my seat there is absolutely no chance in hell i wouldnât try to leave my flight reclined for the entire flight just to fuck with him for thinking his life is more important than mine and that if youâre a piece of shit who complains enough you can get whatever you want.
They both suck but heâs worse because he wouldnât do it if it were a man. The airline should not have a seat that reclines in that row. And if I were nearby I would offer to switch seats with either of them.
Well⌠if you fully reclined your seat in that situation then youâre the initial arsehole imo, but it doesnât justify his reaction.
All of the discussion around when it is/isnât socially appropriate, reasonable, acceptable to recline your seat is exactly why I think it shouldnât be possible. More examples - the seat in front of you reclining is significantly more inconvenient if you are tall. Should the person in front of you have to take that into consideration?
A system like this that requires people just be generally considerate in their ârecline or notâ decision is doomed to fail and imo its not a large enough comfort increase to be worth all the physical and emotional bullshit that comes with it.
Naturally, this is less of an issue in more spacious aircraft.
I have spoken.
But, it works the vast majority of the time and it only ends up on Twitter in the very most extreme cases.
I would switch seats with her.
And then I would recline my seat.
Oh and while I am at it, there really should be more effort made by airlines to educate parents on just why their kids are screaming on the plane. I seriously think at least 50% of it could be avoided if flight hosts came up to parents of infants and offered something free that the child could suck on during take-off/landing to help their ears equalize.
Mid-air incident, plane emergency landing, jail is my guess.
Hot take: reclining seats are perfectly fine and 99% of the people that complain about them arenât affected. Iâm 6â 200 and have zero issue with people in front of me reclining, so if I look behind me and see someone smaller than me, Iâm assuming itâs safe to recline. If you tap me on the shoulder and ask me not to, Iâll listen, but Iâm not going to sit uncomfortably for multiple hours just because.
In the posted video Iâm assuming they both suck, but if she reclined and he immediately started punching the seat rather than asking nicely, heâs the asshole.
Need to do a gradually decreasing recline ability starting 5 rows from the back.
I find if you channel the Stoic philosophers before embarking on air travel everything goes much smoother.
Marcus would tell himself that pain is just a ârough sensationâ in the body, nothing more or less. It canât make us a better or a worse person but how we respond to it can. Itâs an absolutely fundamental principle of Stoic ethics that painful (or pleasant) sensations are neither good nor bad but rather indifferent â at least with regard to the supreme goal of our lives. Itâs natural for us to prefer not to experience painful sensations, or other symptoms of illness. However, once theyâre already happening to us we should accept the fact rather than becoming upset or frustrated. Stoics, therefore, suspend their value judgements about external events, including pain and other bodily sensations. If we can avoid imposing strong value judgements on unpleasant sensations we thereby eliminate a whole layer of emotional suffering from our experience, allowing us to cope better with the âroughâ sensations we feel.
We do something like this in modern therapy to help build motivation for change, which research shows is actually one of the most important ingredients determining success. The Stoics very frequently refer to a similar technique. In typically Laconic fashion, they often prefer just to remind themselves of the paradox that our anger or sorrow often does us more harm than the things weâre upset about. The majority of people take it for granted that pain is harmful, because it hurts. However, the Stoics argue that pain doesnât necessarily do us any real harm because it doesnât affect our moral character unless we allow it to do so.