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Yang releases his climate plan

Our climate correspondent Emily Holden reports:

Democratic presidential candidate Andrew Yang unveiled his climate policy, which would both decrease heat-trapping pollution and adapt to the changing planet.

Andrew Yang(@AndrewYang)

Proud to release my climate change plan today - we must fight like mad for a future we will be glad to pass to our children. #YangsClimatePlan:+1::us: https://www.yang2020.com/blog/climate-change pic.twitter.com/azPcr4SxhO

August 26, 2019
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https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1166033264093618177

https://twitter.com/hollyotterbein/status/1166035715253297155

minorities hate Bernie tho

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Lol Biden.

[quote=“Trolly, post:929, topic:91, full:true”]
I put in a decent-size bet that Tulsi wouldn’t qualify for the next debate; now its super exciting for me when these polls come in. Tulsi needs 3 more polls of >2% to get in, I’m feeling good but this is a sweat.[/quote]

Winner winner. Tulsi stans are my new favorite Predictit fish.

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I have glanced at it but won’t be able to read it in detail until tonight. I am excited to dig in and see what he came up with.

https://www.yang2020.com/blog/climate-change/

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Where does she stand? Still 3 more?

She needs to bing 3 out of the next 1 polls. She’s out, Williamson is out, Steyer is out.

Nice. Kind of surprised Steyer didn’t get that 4th poll (I think he just needed 1). Guess we’re having another shitty 10 person debate.

The date is still August 28th, correct?

I’ve dug into the Yang plan. It’s basically line for line what econ nerds want to do about global warming. This is not a surprise to me.

In particular notice the carbon fee and dividend proposal. That’s the approach we’re probably going to take in real life to deal with climate change. It’s way way way better than the centralized approach favored by the far left. It’ll cost less to do and happen muuuuuuch faster.

EDIT: I hadn’t gotten to the second half of it earlier. This thing is really good. I think this climate plan is the closest thing to realistic I’ve seen from anyone. It’s both aggressive and feasible. You know someone has really thought it through when they talk about the need to reform flood insurance ASAP.

If Yang takes 5th in Iowa that would be hilarious.

Yeah don’t sleep on that guy lol. There’s a decent chance a bunch of people who don’t normally turn out for primaries show up to vote for Yang.

How do you define far left? Who is far left?

To the best of my knowledge the Green New Deal doesn’t have a carbon tax/dividend in it (which is the reason I’m against it), and neither does Bernie. I’m not sure if Warren does or not.

Have a democratic nominee draft coming up, just me and another guy. Here’s my big board:

  1. Liz
  2. Bernie
  3. Biden (almost want to just not pick him, I really don’t think he’s going to win)
  4. Harris
  5. Mayor Pete
  6. YANG
  7. Amy
  8. Booker
  9. Castro
  10. Gabbert (America simply is not ready for its first hot president, sorry)
  11. Gillibrand
  12. Steyer
  13. Williamson
  14. Delaney
  15. Bullock
  16. Schultz
  17. Sestack
  18. Ryan
  19. De Blasio
  20. Beeto

Edit: smacc25. Spelling.

LOL Monmouth poll…usually good, but really?

Results in this release are based on 298 registered voters who identify as Democrats or lean toward the Democratic Party, which has a +/- 5.7 percentage point sampling margin of error.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s awesome that Biden is dropping, but sample size…eek.

That doesn’t really answer my questions.

https://twitter.com/allahpundit/status/1166055806669926407

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1166056741018230785

Whenever we see a divergence between Iowa polls and national polls, the question is whether it has something to do with Iowa’s demographics or, rather, the fact that the campaign is more active in Iowa than it is nationally. If the differences are demographic in nature, then Biden might not have as much to worry about — the Democrats who turn out to caucus in Iowa are white and liberal, whereas he overperforms among nonwhite and moderate Democrats, who make up bigger parts of the electorate in states such as South Carolina and most of the Super Tuesday states. Alternatively, if Biden’s numbers are middling in Iowa because voters don’t like him as much upon prolonged exposure to him, that could mean it’s more of a canary in the coal mine, and that voters in other states will tire of Biden once they begin paying more attention to the campaign.

Anyone for massive green intervention but not for a carbon tax (usually because they plan to use green initiatives to massively undermine the free market like they did with agriculture in the 30’s… something I consider to be just about the worst thing the federal government has done in the last century in terms of impact on its citizens).

Basically if your first thought when confronting potentially apocalyptic climate change is to try to use it as an opportunity to end capitalism I think you’re pretty far left.

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The green new deal had no plans at all to implement anything, carbon tax or otherwise. It wasn’t legislation. It was “meant to start a conversation”. You can argue that it was typical stupid dems being naive, thinking this is an episode of The West Wing and trying to start an honest conversation with people who are just going to strawman and mock you dishonestly. That’s a fair criticism of the green new deal imo, but the fact that it doesn’t mention a carbon tax is irrelevant because it didn’t mention any legislative solutions.