Who will run in 2020?

There needs to be a new Department of Climate Change. Inslee should be the first secretary.

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So hereā€™s where I think weā€™re at, but itā€™s kind of a rough guess at this point:

I agree with this. I hope we elect someone who does exactly that.

Ā  Were they in the last debate? Appeals to Strengths Weaknesses
Beto [center]X[/center] centrists, the ladies quite tall, elite hacking skills couldnā€™t win senate election, not liberal enough
Biden [center]X[/center] Obama voters, readers of the onion Obama nostalgia too old, might have a #MeToo problem
Bennet [center]X[/center] centrists loves to compromise! just another boring-ass white dude
Booker [center]X[/center] centrists and the center-left establishment support establishment support
Bullock Ā  All 57 Montanans can win in a red state Montanaā€™s not even a real state, prove me wrong
Buttigieg [center]X[/center] young people, Rust Belt yambags youthful, Midwestern cred, team Hufflepuff inexperienced, silly name
Castro [center]X[/center] centrists a least heā€™s not Cuomo silly voice, looks like a doofus
de Blasio [center]X[/center] no one, not even New Yorkers he was a big-city mayor, I guess basicaly nobody wants him to run
Delaney [center]X[/center] wait, who? literally just some guy for real, who the **** is this guy?
Gabbard [center]X[/center] fans of Bill Mahr and Glenn Greenwald super liberal on lots of issues, kinda hot unelectable, dubious statements about Islam and LGBT issues
Gillibrand [center]X[/center] New Yorkers, politics wonks Blue Dog Democrat support Flip-floppy Blue Dog
Harris [center]X[/center] Law And Order fans good chops as a federal prosecutor is a straight-up NARC
Klobuchar [center]X[/center] politics wonks, George Will Minnesota nice, tough on grammatical errors, good aim throws things at people
Mesam Ā  FSU football fans Might do well in Florida? inexperienced, zero name recognition
Moulton Ā  centrists He was a a Marine, I guess just another boring-ass white dude
Ryan [center]X[/center] Ohioans Might do well in Ohio? Easily confused with Paul Ryan
Sanders [center]X[/center] Millenials, Berniebros socialist liberal cred, name recognition too old, pisses off HIllary fans
Steyer Ā  people who love hedge fund managers has a *&%$load of money might actually be Mitt Romney
Warren [center]X[/center] Berniebros strong on banking regulation/consumer protection ā€œunelectableā€
Williamson [center]X[/center] woo-woo people, Oprah spiritual healing powers, charity work kinda out there
Yang [center]X[/center] liberals, anime weirdos lots of good ideas creepy fan base
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Did you just copy that in? How did you do that?

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Lol at Warren being unelectable when sheā€™s the best non Asian political candidate.

This is infuriating. The crescendo to skepticism and Chris Hayesā€™ question about trusting Warren, as though liberal politicians like Liz are responsible for unkept promises and the decades-long funneling of wealth to fewer and fewer. jfc

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Bernie Sanders has laid out an ambitious 10-year, $16.3tn national mobilization to avert climate catastrophe, warning that the US risks losing $34.5tn in economic productivity by the end of the century if it does not respond with the urgency the threat demands.

The Vermont senator has long spoken of the climate crisis as a existential danger to the US and the world, and he has previously endorsed a Green New Deal, which he put forward with the New York congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

Sanders will formally unveil his proposal on Thursday during a campaign visit to Paradise, California, a town that was destroyed in 2018 by one of the deadliest wildfires in US history. After the tour, the senator will hold a climate change town hall in Chico, California.

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I donā€™t understand why the left doesnā€™t gather around the carbon tax and dividend model. Itā€™s the easiest thing to get done, and would work the best. You want to decarbonize by 2050? Start with a 20$ a ton carbon tax in 2021 and increment it up 2.5 bucks a year from then on out. Offer to pay half the carbon tax amount for carbon capture. Then sit back and watch the public figure it out. I bet you hit net zero emissions by 2035.

Isnā€˜t a carbon tax very regressive because just like tariffs corporations will add them to the consumer price?

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Thatā€™s why you go revenue neutral and give 90%+ of the money back as a UBI. That way you send the poor more money than it costs them in increased prices. The poor obviously consume a LOT less carbon than the rich, so them getting a UBI based on the total carbon tax raised is a pretty big win for them.

Carbon tariff? Tariff rates based on CO2/BTU in country of origin. Perhaps tied to Paris Goals or something.

Carbon tax is maybe flat, not regressive. Rich people consume way more energy and things like tiered energy rates and mass transit are quite progressive countermeasures.

I feel like I would be better at running for president than John Delaney.

https://twitter.com/JohnDelaney/status/1164567026108641280

Yeah this is what caused the yellow vest protests in france.

A lot of people would be. But itā€™s his money to burn ldo.

They tried to take the carbon tax money and keep it. Big mistake. That is in fact extremely regressive and greatly limits how much you can charge for carbon. The point isnā€™t to raise money itā€™s to change incentives and make businesses value carbon like itā€™s money. Itā€™s amazing how fast they can cut carbon usage when it costs something. A 40 dollar a ton tax would raise a lot of money to be sureā€¦ but nowhere near as much money as the current carbon output * 40.

The poor spend a bigger percentage of their income on energy though.(I donā€™t have statistics to prove that, Iā€™m guessing) That is why itā€™s considered regressive as a tax alone.

That may be true, but itā€™s not obvious to me. I look at a lot of utility bills and the rich certainly spend a lot. Thereā€™s also travel and cars and the energy required to build their homes and all their stuff. Maybe itā€™s somewhat regressive, especially gasoline. But anyway, there are tradeoffs and if you want policy to affect energy choices this is not going to be avoidable. Regulations against pollution from energy providers is just as regressive. Forcing oil companies to clean up spills is just as regressive.

Naive question perhaps, but wouldnā€™t it be best / least regressive to just throw all your resources into making cleaner energy more competitive? You can target additional taxes (e.g. to fund solar subsidies) to whatever subset of the population you want.