Who will run in 2020?

I’ll take people who believe in liberation theology over Sam Harris acolytes any day of the week on twice on the Sabbath. I’d even take some of the non child rapey Jesuits (that’s a big ask I know).

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https://twitter.com/zachmontellaro/status/1213845940450271233?s=21

https://twitter.com/SalvantoCBS/status/1213846432173690880?s=19

https://twitter.com/SalvantoCBS/status/1213846530899230721?s=19

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Dammit ponied.

Find me an actual human in that 7%. I refuse to believe it can be done.

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Fyp.

Margin of error is 5.3.:joy:

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I dunno. I like her more than Mayor Pete and Biden. I’m surprised she’s not doing better. She’s the most sensible centrist choice imo. Not a thousand years old, relatively scandal free, experienced, proven winner in Wisconsin-like state.

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Yeah I definitely like her better than the other centrists

https://twitter.com/ZachMontellaro/status/1213850597000196097

Apart from recent gains in New Hampshire, Sanders’ support is still best characterized by its steadiness and strength compared to other candidates who have seen more volatility. Nearly half (47%) of his New Hampshire voters say they’ve definitely made up their minds. By comparison, just 15% of Biden’s backers in the state describe their choice that way.

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got to love all those candidates complaining there’s no qualifying polls then one comes out and none of them were even close, even by last debate standards.

amusing to me, Yang got beat by Steyer and those were in the early states steyer does worst in.

klob’s the reason bernie’s ahead right now heh

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I was assured that Yang was gaining momentum

https://mobile.twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1213882359994626048

https://twitter.com/ThomTillis/status/1213609311710187520

Thom on a roll here for re-election in 2020, up to one guy who wants to vote for him.

meh I just think her biggest problem is she took the lead in the polling and when everyone saw it–quickly realized that nobody but a few hillary voters actually want warren to be potus.

She just kinda fell back to her base of support but she has nowhere to go up atm with bernie taking the rest of her ideology and pete taking the rest of her clientele and klob taking up some of the rest of the women who voted for hillary and want to vote for another one vote.

She needs bernie to keel over either figuratively or literally–which admittedly isn’t zero percent which is what her odds in 2024 all but certainly are.

in other words, she was already heading here before she tried the other stuff to try to stop the bleeding.

I mean dems don’t give a **** about authenticity. Obama, the clintons? I mean come on.

Trying to convince some bernie bros on reddit that nuking the filibuster is extremely necessary. Not going well, apparently I’m a neolib who wants to derail a class consciousness revolution :\

How anyone could think we are gonna get 60 votes to pass anything remotely progressive is beyond me. I love Bernie but going to Kentucky to campaign is not going to get them to vote in a progressive senator.

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wtf is the argument against nuking the filibuster? Why it hasn’t been done already is beyond me. Dems aren’t going to have an advantage in the Senate for the next 50 years.

It shows the power of the status quo. If the filibuster didn’t exist and you suggested introducing it, everyone would call you an anti-democratic moron.

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Arguements so far

The filibuster is exactly the kind of thing that can allow us to keep from sliding backwards in a politicized society still crippled by old-world neoliberal politicians. Filibuster is good. You’re parroting neoliberal ideas. A strong left wing can wreck shop with filibusters. Focus on building a strong left wing.

Abolishing the filibuster can only benefit the right wing and neoliberals.

The filibuster is a critical institution that lets a single politician force stop law in the name of people. The problem is not the filibuster, but the fact that the people are propagandized and depoliticized. Abolishing the filibuster will not fix that, but rather push abuse to use another method. Healthy democracy is not a matter of bolting down the fort. It’s a matter of opening it up and getting people involved. Bernie understands how this works, so his plans are to get the constituency of right wing senators to hold them accountable for their filibusters, among other things.

Long term implications.

Bernie has a straightforward plan for this, and it’s the only plan that has ever worked for any left wing movement. We have to politicize and agitate the broad working class to hold our political representatives accountable.

These plans have overwhelming support among Americans. M4A is supported by nearly 80% of the population.

Derailing the project of building class consciousness and politicization in favor of debates over legislative procedure is a pathetic neoliberal agenda.

The logical conclusion of your version is to never build a working class movement and stay bogged down in technocratic discourse, because you’re saying that must bear fruit then the working class will get involved. There’s no historical precedent for that, though. The logical conclusion of my version, on the other hand, is to convince people their participation matters, which Bernie has proven possible.

Gibberish.

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Yeah. Pretty sure they just see Bernie as a cult like figure than can never be wrong so they just assume nuking the filibuster must be bad and work back from there. And can only come up with dumb shit like this.

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