Who will run in 2020?

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The ACA is probably the most impressive piece of legislation in my lifetime, so yes.

Regardless, Obama is a great example of how important a solid ground organization and campaigning skills are. You think any random businessbro can run campaigns like he did, I dunno what to tell you.

IMO: Bernie favored, Biden slightly favored, Liz a slight dog, Klob/Pete dogs.

But not sure thereā€™s much to discuss about gut feels.

well klob for me is only because sheā€™d clinch MN and has a better chance in WI than everyone else, but yes, some other states sheā€™d be much worse. Itā€™s dumb how important WI is this cycleā€“but here we are.

Anyway, yang, steyer unlikely to make the next Jan debate, polling thresholds are probably too high for yang (and through a holiday season nobody does polls), and donors probably too high for steyer. The other 5 are already in. Bloomberg can get in if he does the workaround by selling merch as that counts as donors somehow but heā€™s seemed to not give a shit.

Iā€™m out on KLOB. In addition to eating salads with used combs and pelting her staff with binders, I have a residual hatred for ā€œniceā€ midwestern monsters.

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You better find some way to cozy up to some passable imitation of a midwesterner, or youā€™re looking at four more years of Trump, because there isnā€™t any vaguely plausible path for a dem to win without some combination of Minn., Wisc. Mich, and Penn. Getting you another 100k votes from a costal elite type does exactly fuck all for the dems.

MM MD

Yeah the Dems should not be appealing to the elite. They should be appealing to the working class and poor people. They have those in the midwest too.

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Well one problem with that is it looks like the working class are being appealed to by policies that are making it worse for them and logically weā€™re all confused.

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TX is in the realm of plausible but they all but absolutely need TX if they lose PA and yeahā€¦

The most plausible one is either hanging onto MN, or VA+GA+FL+AZ+NV+CO+NH+ME and they still get there

What is the Centristā€™s appeal to the mid Westerner anyway? Weā€™re not going to make that big of a deal about race? Weā€™re going to let some kids out of cages, but not all of them?

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The working-class did not believe Hillary. Can you blame them?

itā€™s midwestern nice appeal

I know dumb as fuck to be nice to shit people but thereā€™s two main groups in the midwest, absolute shit people and people who think you should be nice and compromise with everyone.

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even if you thought sheā€™d do her worst, itā€™s not as bad as right to work or whatever the fuck that shit is

The Democrat will be running against a huge a*******.

One answer I would consider here is midwesterners wonā€™t vote for a woman, a Jew or a gay person. Didnā€™t have that much trouble voting for a Black person though. I really think the biggest factor is believing that the candidate is on your side. That may mean they have to be against someone else also.

They vote for all of those things in the dem primary. MN even has muslim politicians.

All of the Muslim Congresspeople are from Midwestern districts/states IIRC.

We need Fox Newsā€™s version of Obama, a radical socialist who comes for guns and gives everyone free healthcare.

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Arenā€™t they in heavily blue districts though?

Could be wrong.